Tesla unveil Semi, new Roadster, & also teased a "pickup truck"

[Reerun_KC]

I wonder how the batteries would handle a 2900 watt digitally processed 12 speaker focal audio system?

I wonder if that would hurt the miles per charge?

[Sofa King]

Exciting stuff!

[Couch-Potato]

amazing! The future is now!

[Couch-Potato]

5 yrs later they'll all be automated and the poor truckers are out of business however. Not too mention undercutting the oil industry etc... I love it, but I also work in automation and see the future is bleak for the everyday worker.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

5 yrs later they'll all be automated and the poor truckers are out of business however. Not too mention undercutting the oil industry etc... I love it, but I also work in automation and see the future is bleak for the everyday worker.

I think the future for the average worker will be amazing.

There's no way to avoid a bloody revolution against the rich, and a luddite revolution against their machines without universal basic income.

The worst part of the impending future is the lack of privacy and freedom for the independent spirit. People who crave that will need to go to Mars. Unless of course technology also allows us to reclaim much of the developed land. City densification and improved farming techniques such as vertical and container gardening should help.

[cooper barrett]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

5 yrs later they'll all be automated and the poor truckers are out of business however. Not too mention undercutting the oil industry etc... I love it, but I also work in automation and see the future is bleak for the everyday worker.

Product quality starting to suck on everything you buy but machines build it so they make it.

[cooper barrett]

Checked out Cummins?


https://cleantechnica.com/2017/11/14...c-truck-party/

Originally Posted by aturnis

Anyone watch the unveil last night?



The numbers on the semi destroyed what anyone thought possible.

- 0-60 in 5 sec
- 0-60 in 20 sec under max gross payload of 80k lbs
- 65mph up 5% grade under max lied, compared to 45mph for ICE semi
- 500 mile range
- 400 miles of additional range after 30 min charge
- Guaranteed 7¢/kWh fuel cost(solar) compared to volatile oil
- Nuclear explosion proof glass(apparently cracked windshield takes semi off road)
- 1 million mile guarantee it won't breakdown
- Will never need a break change
- Beats semis on economics day 1
- In convoy mode, beats rail on economics




The Roadster was a complete surprise, and the numbers given destroy any production car you can think of, even a Koenisegg.

- 0-60 in 1.9 sec (this is faster than most Formula 1 cars)
- 0-100 in 4.2
- 1/4 mile in 8.9 sec
- 620 mile range (That's Kansas City to Denver without fueling)
- 10,000 nm torque

and that's the base model. Starting at $200k and Founders series at $250k. Destroys million dollar cars.



Also teased a rendering image of a truck with a normal truck in the bed.

Not sure how to embed
https://youtu.be/5n9xafjynJA

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by cooper barrett

Checked out Cummins?


https://cleantechnica.com/2017/11/14...c-truck-party/

Yeah. Tesla likely sent Cummins and Daimler back to the drawing board last night.

Cummins is Class 7 with a 100 mile range(don't see economics working), and Daimler is Class 8 with 220 miles of range.

Daimler might be an option for local routes or farmers if they can compete on price.

[DaFace]

If nothing else, I love that Tesla is pushing everyone else to get better. Hopefully they can figure out their production issues sooner than later.

[morphius]

Exactly! Too many years where the car companies looked at electric cars as these loathsome vehicles.

[JakeF]

Originally Posted by DaFace

If nothing else, I love that Tesla is pushing everyone else to get better. Hopefully they can figure out their production issues sooner than later.

Pushing everything forward is what matters. Musk is slowly doing what our worthless Congress refuses to do by getting America off of gasoline.

[prhom]

Seems to me they should be viewing batteries as an interchangeable unit rather than a fixed piece of the vehicles. A Tesla station should have fully charged battery packs ready to switch out when you arrive. That may make design more of a challenge but would improve one of the big drawbacks, especially for trucks. You don’t own the batteries, but exchange them when you need a new charge. Battery replacement also seems like a huge sustaining capital cost that never gets figured in when looking at the costs. What is the lifespan? Maybe a few years if you are lucky?

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by prhom

Seems to me they should be viewing batteries as an interchangeable unit rather than a fixed piece of the vehicles. A Tesla station should have fully charged battery packs ready to switch out when you arrive. That may make design more of a challenge but would improve one of the big drawbacks, especially for trucks. You don’t own the batteries, but exchange them when you need a new charge. Battery replacement also seems like a huge sustaining capital cost that never gets figured in when looking at the costs. What is the lifespan? Maybe a few years if you are lucky?

I know they've considered that for the cars, but I haven't heard anything about that being a serious part of the game-plan for a while anyway.

I do agree that that would take care of the issue of having to sit around for an hour or two while it recharges.

That said, battery lifespan on the Teslas at least doesn't appear to be a huge concern.

[cooper barrett]

Originally Posted by prhom

Seems to me they should be viewing batteries as an interchangeable unit rather than a fixed piece of the vehicles. A Tesla station should have fully charged battery packs ready to switch out when you arrive. That may make design more of a challenge but would improve one of the big drawbacks, especially for trucks. You don’t own the batteries, but exchange them when you need a new charge. Battery replacement also seems like a huge sustaining capital cost that never gets figured in when looking at the costs. What is the lifespan? Maybe a few years if you are lucky?

Just lift out the battery pack, sure tell your wife to run to the store for beer and while she is at it swap the batteries.



You can thank me for pointing this out because if you said it anywhere else but CP you would be flamed