***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[crayzkirk]

The last two weekends, I was in Hickory county with zero cases recorded. We drove to a fireworks house both weekends and bought fireworks. Most of the people that were in the place were wearing masks. Including me and my friends. The workers were wearing masks about 50% of the time.

I've been to the dentist, they checked my temperature and wore masks. I've been to the eye doctor, they checked my temperature and wore masks. My eye doctor even used her fingers to open my eyes and get a good look while I was dialated. I don't feel violated nor do I feel that my rights were infringed upon. I went into their place of business and complied with the rules in place.

Why is everyone making this some sort of major issue? What has happened to us, as Americans, who pride themselves on their freedoms, that we get so polarized and make this political when it's not a real big deal.

[suzzer99]

These streamers are at Disney World, visited first aid last night for cough, shortness of breath, and severe vomiting, and were back in Magic Kingdom today complaining of sore throats pic.twitter.com/1mighq1pUa

— Jenny Nicholson (@JennyENicholson) July 12, 2020

The most magical place on earth.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Oh you think everyone is wearing them just because it's mandatory? They aren't. Particularly in the super poor and super rich areas.

Super rich must not be very smart according to the Fattys link.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Trump wore a mask to the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, after months of refusing to don the expert-recommended face coverings meant to help slow the spread of the coronavirus. "I love masks in the appropriate locations," Trump said. https://t.co/dsrJWHTiXh

— NPR (@NPR) July 11, 2020

No comment.

And now we go political....

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[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

Interesting when things get boiled down to local.....No wonder this thing is such a threat when people are too obstinate and or down right stupid and refuse to do something so simple as wear a mask, distance and wash your damn hands.....

Cass County COVID update - since our "leaders" are making us find it out on our own:
1. Texas Roadhouse in Belton closed today by Health Dept.
2. Harrisonville Sonic closed till Tuesday by Health Dept.
3. 4th of July kegger near Garden City was a superspreader event and they are trying to find people who were there
4. Harrisonville Schools shut down ALL summer activities for 14 days beginning Monday - multiple students and staff ill
5. Ditto for Pleasant Hill.
6. Casey's on W. Mechanic in Harrisonville has been closed twice in the last 10 days for deep cleaning due to employee COVID infections.
WEAR THE DAMN MASKS!

We have a small outbreak here in Clinton from a bunch of kids weight lifting at the high school. There is also a couple of ff restaurants that had staff just come back positive but at this point they aren’t shutting down.

We had like 10 cases for the first couple of months but we had 8-10 just today that was announced.

[dirk digler]

I read a story today that Florida has had over 17k kids test positive for Covid. Yes kids probably statistically don’t suffer the worst parts of covid but those numbers tell me they get it and transmit just like adults

So I really don’t understand how in person school is going to happen because all it will take is 1 and it will spread like wild fire. Then they will have to shutdown the school for a period of time.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I read a story today that Florida has had over 17k kids test positive for Covid. Yes kids probably statistically don’t suffer the worst parts of covid but those numbers tell me they get it and transmit just like adults

So I really don’t understand how in person school is going to happen because all it will take is 1 and it will spread like wild fire. Then they will have to shutdown the school for a period of time.

I think there will be some smaller and more rural areas of the country that will open and not have many problems.

But cities like New York, Los Angeles, Houston, Miami, San Fran and others will have major issues if they try to open in the Fall and we'll see even more cases than we're seeing now, which are mostly due to states opening up in the past few weeks.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think there will be some smaller and more rural areas of the country that will open and not have many problems.

But cities like New York, Los Angeles, Houston, Miami, San Fran and others will have major issues if they try to open in the Fall and we'll see even more cases than we're seeing now, which are mostly due to states opening up in the past few weeks.

Does anyone know if Europe has opened schools?

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Well see, my opinion is that mask usage isn't political.


Or at least it shouldn't be. Case in point is the image in that tweet.

Lol yeah masks aren't political, but you know what/who is? Donald Trump.

[Rain Man]

Here's a nice scoreboard of vaccines in development.

I hate to say this, but I'm not sure that I trust a Chinese-developed vaccine. I'm hoping one of the American or European countries gets there first.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng...e-to-a-vaccine

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by TLO

Does anyone know if Europe has opened schools?

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...or-most-312595

There’s some good news for countries just beginning to reopen schools.

Their European counterparts — such as Denmark, Austria and Germany — that began sending children back to classrooms in April and early May, haven’t seen significant increases in new cases. And experts are cautiously optimistic that sending children back to school may be relatively safe.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/09/europ...ntl/index.html

There is some stuff in that cnn link that goes along with the first but that is probably to political for this thread or the Lounge.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by petegz28

And now we go political....

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Oh no no no! Not political. Just look at this explanation!

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Well see, my opinion is that mask usage isn't political.


Or at least it shouldn't be. Case in point is the image in that tweet.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Here's a nice scoreboard of vaccines in development.

I hate to say this, but I'm not sure that I trust a Chinese-developed vaccine. I'm hoping one of the American or European countries gets there first.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng...e-to-a-vaccine

Chinese created this mess!
Chinese end this mess!

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Chinese created this mess!
Chinese end this mess!

I liked it better when they only made rice and babies.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think there will be some smaller and more rural areas of the country that will open and not have many problems.

But cities like New York, Los Angeles, Houston, Miami, San Fran and others will have major issues if they try to open in the Fall and we'll see even more cases than we're seeing now, which are mostly due to states opening up in the past few weeks.

Giant high schools where you have a different group of students for every subject doesn't look viable. But many grade schools are about the same size even in cities . I think districts should try and find out how many parents want to send their kids to in person schools and how many teachers want to teach in person. Young teachers may be more willing. Older teachers and/or ones with health issues might want to stick to online only.

And for kids going online the entire year the teachers wouldn't even have to be local.