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Old 04-25-2024, 09:24 PM  
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Old 04-29-2024, 09:39 AM   #886
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10 plus years ago I would have been pissed about a pick like this. Stick figures didn't last long in the league. Since the physicality has been taken out of the game I'm good with this pick. Just hope a safety doesn't get a clean hit on him.
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Old 04-29-2024, 09:42 AM   #887
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10 plus years ago I would have been pissed about a pick like this. Stick figures didn't last long in the league. Since the physicality has been taken out of the game I'm good with this pick. Just hope a safety doesn't get a clean hit on him.
He *can* take a hit ya know lol...
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Old 04-29-2024, 09:46 AM   #888
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He *can* take a hit ya know lol...
On the plus side - he might disappear if a hitter tries to see him from the side. Harder to hit if you can't see him.
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Old 04-29-2024, 09:57 AM   #889
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10 plus years ago I would have been pissed about a pick like this. Stick figures didn't last long in the league. Since the physicality has been taken out of the game I'm good with this pick. Just hope a safety doesn't get a clean hit on him.
We did this pick 10 years ago. Dexter mccluster
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Old 04-29-2024, 10:06 AM   #890
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We did this pick 10 years ago. Dexter mccluster
God damn you're stupid.
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Old 04-29-2024, 10:10 AM   #891
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We did this pick 10 years ago. Dexter mccluster
Yeah if you subtract 5 inches of height they're totally the same guy
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Old 04-29-2024, 10:18 AM   #892
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Yeah if you subtract 5 inches of height they're totally the same guy
And ran a 4.53
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Old 04-29-2024, 10:19 AM   #893
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We did this pick 10 years ago. Dexter mccluster
This is bait.
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Old 04-29-2024, 10:28 AM   #895
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I'm speaking more to the assumption that he's a gadget guy that can't run routes, track the ball, etc.

Sure, he's a very unique talent with his size, so you absolutely have to have a plan/role specifically for him, but I think not having one is more of an indictment on the coach than anything.

All of these young offensive minds like McDaniels, McVay, Shanaham, Slowik, Johnston, etc. would all know exactly how to use him too.
Yeah, that stuff is ridiculous, annoying, and a clear indication someone doesn't know what they're talking about.

Keysor pointed out on Twitter and in his breakdown of Worthy that he does the same things as a route-runner that Ladd McConkey does, he just doesn't get attention for it because he ran a 4.21 40 at the Combine.

My favorite is when Chiefs fans are like "Great, another Mecole Hardman." Dude isn't anything like him, and all it takes is watching him track one deep shot to realize that.
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Old 04-29-2024, 10:35 AM   #896
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Yeah, that stuff is ridiculous, annoying, and a clear indication someone doesn't know what they're talking about.

Keysor pointed out on Twitter and in his breakdown of Worthy that he does the same things as a route-runner that Ladd McConkey does, he just doesn't get attention for it because he ran a 4.21 40 at the Combine.

My favorite is when Chiefs fans are like "Great, another Mecole Hardman." Dude isn't anything like him, and all it takes is watching him track one deep shot to realize that.
Yeah - the DeSean Jackson comps feel lazy but they're awfully apt. I just can't come up with a better one.
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Old 04-29-2024, 10:38 AM   #897
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I keep seeing wildly different heights listed for him but in the videos of him meeting Reid he Looks well over 6 ft rather than his listed 5’11
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Old 04-29-2024, 10:52 AM   #898
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I keep seeing wildly different heights listed for him but in the videos of him meeting Reid he Looks well over 6 ft rather than his listed 5’11
Measured at 5'11" at the combine.

Doesn't get much more legitimate than that.

But with good body control and an insane vertical, his catch radius should be pretty good. The issue is that he's not going to fight through contact for much. So that catch radius isn't likely to be put to a ton of use unless Mahomes just misfires on a ball into space.

He's not a guy you wanna send it high and let him fly for on a crosser in the red zone, for instance. He'll die. And frankly a DB could just wall him off entirely too easily.

But if you see him with a step on a guy but a safety shaded to where he's directed, you could elevate it a bit, get it over his DB and let him use his explosion and body control to stop and go up and get it instead of sending him towards traffic. We saw Tyreek do that on occasion. We do it with Kelce quite a bit still.

His height is largely a non issue, good or bad really.
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Measured at 5'11" at the combine.

Doesn't get much more legitimate than that.

But with good body control and an insane vertical, his catch radius should be pretty good. The issue is that he's not going to fight through contact for much. So that catch radius isn't likely to be put to a ton of use unless Mahomes just misfires on a ball into space.

He's not a guy you wanna send it high and let him fly for on a crosser in the red zone, for instance. He'll die. And frankly a DB could just wall him off entirely too easily.

But if you see him with a step on a guy but a safety shaded to where he's directed, you could elevate it a bit, get it over his DB and let him use his explosion and body control to stop and go up and get it instead of sending him towards traffic. We saw Tyreek do that on occasion. We do it with Kelce quite a bit still.

His height is largely a non issue, good or bad really.
ESPN had him listed at 6'1" lol, but yeah Combine numbers are probably legit. A McCluster comp is insane though.
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ESPN had him listed at 6'1" lol, but yeah Combine numbers are probably legit. A McCluster comp is insane though.
The perceived speed vs. the real speed of McCluster will always be funny to me.

Folks talking like he had afterburners and was some deep threat when he was a 4.5 guy who'd get caught from behind by linebackers.

I mean if you wanted to try to argue he was De'Anthony Thomas I'd listen - skeptically, but at least I'd listen.

But McCluster? That's just laughably stupid.
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