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Old 02-22-2024, 04:03 AM   #2
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What about Mike Williams if he's cut? Does he have any juice left to squeeze?
I love this idea. And I think Andy could make it work. Keep rotating your WRs and keep Mike Williams snaps low and then unleash him the playoffs. He’s a great player. He just can’t stay healthy. I’m really only interested in cheap free agents. What would Mike Williams cost?
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Old 02-21-2024, 10:05 PM   #3
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I'd let Allen Robinson come to camp and try out for WR 5-7, maybe.
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Old 02-22-2024, 01:29 AM   #4
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I read today Lockett will likely be a cap casualty. I wouldn’t mind having his solid hands.

Depending on the rookie, this could be an affordable upgrade at the position group:

Rice
Lockett
Rookie
Watson
Hardman
Rookie

He will be 32 in September, so Veach probably wants nothing to do with him.
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Old 02-22-2024, 12:50 PM   #5
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I read today Lockett will likely be a cap casualty. I wouldn’t mind having his solid hands.

Depending on the rookie, this could be an affordable upgrade at the position group:

Rice
Lockett
Rookie
Watson
Hardman
Rookie

He will be 32 in September, so Veach probably wants nothing to do with him.
^THIS is the best fit IMHO.

He'd be my #1 target, then Ekeler #2. I've always felt that Lockett is the perfect match for an Andy Reid WR, and we're always looking for a guy just like him. See Sky Moore as an example that didn't pan out.
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Old 02-23-2024, 11:19 AM   #6
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^THIS is the best fit IMHO.

He'd be my #1 target, then Ekeler #2. I've always felt that Lockett is the perfect match for an Andy Reid WR, and we're always looking for a guy just like him. See Sky Moore as an example that didn't pan out.
What do you think Ekeler would accept per yr to play for the Chiefs? How much of a SB discount would he accept at 28?
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Old 02-23-2024, 01:05 PM   #7
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What do you think Ekeler would accept per yr to play for the Chiefs? How much of a SB discount would he accept at 28?
$6m
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Old 02-22-2024, 02:08 AM   #8
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Let's play Madden pretend land for a minute... entertain me...

So the Vikings need to retain Kirk Cousins and re-sign some defensive pieces if they want to contend for the next few years. After Jordan Addison popped off for nearly 1k as a rookie, let's just say they are willing to entertain the idea of trading Justin Jefferson. Since they would be trading us and our picks are lower than Miami's were when we trade Hill, and he's probably more valuable than Tyreek Hill, let's say the trade needs to be this:

2024 1st Rd Pick
2025 1st Rd Pick
2024 3rd Rd Pick
2025 4th Rd Pick

It's alot but it's for a guy that just might be the best WR in the game.

Keep in mind you aren't likely to be retaining Sneed either. Would you do it to go all-in on a Super Bowl?
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Old 02-22-2024, 02:40 AM   #9
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Let's play Madden pretend land for a minute... entertain me...

So the Vikings need to retain Kirk Cousins and re-sign some defensive pieces if they want to contend for the next few years. After Jordan Addison popped off for nearly 1k as a rookie, let's just say they are willing to entertain the idea of trading Justin Jefferson. Since they would be trading us and our picks are lower than Miami's were when we trade Hill, and he's probably more valuable than Tyreek Hill, let's say the trade needs to be this:

2024 1st Rd Pick
2025 1st Rd Pick
2024 3rd Rd Pick
2025 4th Rd Pick

It's alot but it's for a guy that just might be the best WR in the game.

Keep in mind you aren't likely to be retaining Sneed either. Would you do it to go all-in on a Super Bowl?
I've been thinking the same. Why rely on a rookie WR when we can go all in on a vet? Jefferson did say he wants to reset the WR market, and I'm pretty sure we wouldn't do that for him. Diggs is also unhappy in BUF, but I don't think they'd trade him to us. Also, if either becomes available we likley have the worst pkg bc of our draft position. But, sure, I'd be down to get a little wild and go for broke. Now or never!
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Old 02-22-2024, 08:39 AM   #10
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Let's play Madden pretend land for a minute... entertain me...

So the Vikings need to retain Kirk Cousins and re-sign some defensive pieces if they want to contend for the next few years. After Jordan Addison popped off for nearly 1k as a rookie, let's just say they are willing to entertain the idea of trading Justin Jefferson. Since they would be trading us and our picks are lower than Miami's were when we trade Hill, and he's probably more valuable than Tyreek Hill, let's say the trade needs to be this:

2024 1st Rd Pick
2025 1st Rd Pick
2024 3rd Rd Pick
2025 4th Rd Pick

It's alot but it's for a guy that just might be the best WR in the game.

Keep in mind you aren't likely to be retaining Sneed either. Would you do it to go all-in on a Super Bowl?
Based on the rumblings I've heard from his contract negotiation.....probably not.

As good as he is, I just don't think there's any chance he provides enough to justify that. I'm always pro "trade for" but there's just no way the Chiefs can do that.
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Old 02-22-2024, 12:45 PM   #11
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Let's play Madden pretend land for a minute... entertain me...

So the Vikings need to retain Kirk Cousins and re-sign some defensive pieces if they want to contend for the next few years. After Jordan Addison popped off for nearly 1k as a rookie, let's just say they are willing to entertain the idea of trading Justin Jefferson. Since they would be trading us and our picks are lower than Miami's were when we trade Hill, and he's probably more valuable than Tyreek Hill, let's say the trade needs to be this:

2024 1st Rd Pick
2025 1st Rd Pick
2024 3rd Rd Pick
2025 4th Rd Pick

It's alot but it's for a guy that just might be the best WR in the game.

Keep in mind you aren't likely to be retaining Sneed either. Would you do it to go all-in on a Super Bowl?
I probably would not, because we were just able to win one with Rice and 5 scrubs. I think 3 guys who can simply catch the ball would move the needle drastically.

Pick your favorite upside WR in Round 1 if they're there, and add 2 mid-priced Vets with sure hands. Keep Watson & Hardman on vet minimums.
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Old 02-23-2024, 03:36 PM   #12
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Let's play Madden pretend land for a minute... entertain me...

So the Vikings need to retain Kirk Cousins and re-sign some defensive pieces if they want to contend for the next few years. After Jordan Addison popped off for nearly 1k as a rookie, let's just say they are willing to entertain the idea of trading Justin Jefferson. Since they would be trading us and our picks are lower than Miami's were when we trade Hill, and he's probably more valuable than Tyreek Hill, let's say the trade needs to be this:

2024 1st Rd Pick
2025 1st Rd Pick
2024 3rd Rd Pick
2025 4th Rd Pick

It's alot but it's for a guy that just might be the best WR in the game.

Keep in mind you aren't likely to be retaining Sneed either. Would you do it to go all-in on a Super Bowl?
Maybe I am my own but I am just not excited about this kind of idea. One elite WR does not move the needle for me. The Chiefs had a single elite WR in Tyreek (paired with a younger Kelce) and went 1-3 in attempts to win the Superbowl from 2018 - 2021.

I just prefer balance, especially with how this WR class looks.
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Old 02-23-2024, 03:43 PM   #13
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Maybe I am my own but I am just not excited about this kind of idea. One elite WR does not move the needle for me. The Chiefs had a single elite WR in Tyreek (paired with a younger Kelce) and went 1-3 in attempts to win the Superbowl from 2018 - 2021.

I just prefer balance, especially with how this WR class looks.
BUT we also have Rice now, AND we can take a higher quality WR than typical at the bottom of the 1st or 2nd considering we have very few holes on our SB roster.

If there's ever a time to make a splash and go for broke, it's now!
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Old 02-23-2024, 03:52 PM   #14
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BUT we also have Rice now, AND we can take a higher quality WR than typical at the bottom of the 1st or 2nd considering we have very few holes on our SB roster.

If there's ever a time to make a splash and go for broke, it's now!
We had Sammy Watkins, and a younger/healthier Kelce. Plus in the example I quoted, we don't have a 1st round pick any more.

People are horny for a number 1 receiver and I get it, but the suggestions are just taking us back to where we were before, having a #1 is not some way the Chiefs are going to break the league. They got held to 3 points by the Titans with Tyreek and Kelce on the field in 2021.

I agree with you about the draft, which is why I would not trade our #1 pick this year.
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Old 02-23-2024, 07:08 PM   #15
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We had Sammy Watkins, and a younger/healthier Kelce. Plus in the example I quoted, we don't have a 1st round pick any more.

People are horny for a number 1 receiver and I get it, but the suggestions are just taking us back to where we were before, having a #1 is not some way the Chiefs are going to break the league. They got held to 3 points by the Titans with Tyreek and Kelce on the field in 2021.

I agree with you about the draft, which is why I would not trade our #1 pick this year.
I think the difference for me is that we have significantly more cap flexibility now, the cap is going up more and more every season and veach is a creative contract wizard, as well as incentive to go for broke considering we'd be the first 3-peat in the modern era.

Roster is A+ we just need a cherry on top!
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