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Old 07-25-2017, 12:10 PM  
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***** 2017 Chiefs Training Camp Week 1 Megathread *****
This is merely a repository for information. All points of discussion that deserve their own thread should have one, without dip********s posting Q.

Get excited:
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Old 07-25-2017, 02:36 PM   #61
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I don't know when my moment was with Alex Smith, but it happened. After awhile, you just know what you're looking at. I remember turning to my friend during Cassel's... third year? Second? Regardless, he made some dog shit throw and we quietly turned to each other and just... knew. The rest of the watch party was still rooting for the Chiefs, but we knew - it was pointless as long as he was under center.

With Smith, it was when I was watching the Packers. Rodgers delivered a back shoulder bullet 20 yards out, and I just realized I have never once seen that throw from Smith.

QB is the single most important position in all of team sports. Don't you think we deserve - just once - to have that position be filled by our best player? Imagine that? Because it looks a lot like this:

Spoiler!

Foolishly, you forget that as a unit, the Defense is the most important aspect of a winning team. And when your defense comes equipped with a bottom 10 run defense, it's not going to cut it against the major playoff teams. A competent offense comes in second in the formula for a championship, with the QB and RB being the most important pieces. Sans Jerry Rice, Running backs are more commonly known for their contribution to winning a ring than receivers have.

Julio, Dez, Ochocinco, Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Fitzgerald, Terrell Owens, Moss have won absolutely nothing. And they have been the best in the business since Jerry Rice.
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Old 07-25-2017, 02:36 PM   #62
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Jesus **** you guys are annoying. Keep the Alex Smith shit in the other 36384 threads you've ****ed up.
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Old 07-25-2017, 02:37 PM   #63
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I have this weird feeling that K-pass is going to dominate fools, and there will be a midseason swell of "WHY DID WE FIRE DORSEY?"
Eligwe and Kpass would be the first two guys on my list for potential surprises.

If one of them does, and the everybody else stays relatively healthy, we might have our best defense yet.
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Old 07-25-2017, 02:37 PM   #64
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They completely owned time of possession. You need time on the clock to put together scores. Losing the field position battle doesn't help, either.

Facts.
That's ****ing bullshit excuse for a "game manager quarterback". Why didn't he control the TOP? First downs and touchdowns could have won us the game.
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Old 07-25-2017, 02:37 PM   #65
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That's ****ing bullshit excuse for a "game manager quarterback". Why didn't he control the TOP? First downs and touchdowns could have won us the game.
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Old 07-25-2017, 02:38 PM   #66
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Chiefs did nothing 6 drives in a row in the playoff game. Don't need more time. Need to actually do something with the ball when you have it
That's why we are all so excited about training camp. (hint hint)

I am quietly excited about Hunt, as well. I don't know why people fell out of love with Spencer Ware, but it's happened. He's going to be a hell of a bruiser with hopefully Hunt being the lead back.

Wonder when we'll see a depth chart. But I heard Petro make a good point - Reid hasn't done anything weird with training camp. When a dude is listed as the starter, he's usually the starter. They don't play games with the depth chart.
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Old 07-25-2017, 02:38 PM   #67
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Old 07-25-2017, 02:38 PM   #68
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I have this weird feeling that K-pass is going to dominate fools, and there will be a midseason swell of "WHY DID WE FIRE DORSEY?"
Veach had a hand in the process too so you could say business as usual in that area.
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Old 07-25-2017, 02:39 PM   #69
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Chiefs did nothing 6 drives in a row in the playoff game. Don't need more time. Need to actually do something with the ball when you have it
Just like the second half of the Colts playoff game...or the first half of the Pats playoff game...or the ending of the 2011 49ers/Giants NFCCG.
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Old 07-25-2017, 02:39 PM   #70
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The steelers have a great offense.

The chiefs defense held them to 18 points. That's good. Good enough to win.
Big Ben's numbers in that playoff game compared to Alex Smith (who the Alex Smith haters blame the loss solely on)


Ben Roethlisberger 20/31 224 7.2 0-1 27.7 72.5
Alex Smith 20/34 172 5.1 1-1 33.3 69.7

So basically Alex Smith played just as good as Big Ben. Neither played well but it goes to show so if our run D and our RBs played better maybe we win that game.

Not saying Alex Smith played well, he didn't, but blaming just him for that playoff loss is ridiculous considering Big Ben played no better.

Lets also not forget Eric Fisher holding penalty and how Alex Smith/Maclin had to bail us out of that 3rd and long because of Kelce's immaturity.

Also, how many drops did we have that game?

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Coming from the guys who think Alex Smith is elite, no wonder you were impressed with an 18 point outing.
Not once did I ever say Alex Smith is elite and Tiger had never said that either. I said he is a good QB and a great game manager and we can win with him (Reid has said everything I have said himself). Nothing more, nothing less.
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Foolishly, you forget that as a unit, the Defense is the most important aspect of a winning team. And when your defense comes equipped with a bottom 10 run defense, it's not going to cut it against the major playoff teams. A competent offense comes in second in the formula for a championship, with the QB and RB being the most important pieces. Sans Jerry Rice, Running backs are more commonly known for their contribution to winning a ring than receivers have.

Julio, Dez, Ochocinco, Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Fitzgerald, Terrell Owens, Moss have won absolutely nothing. And they have been the best in the business since Jerry Rice.
No one is talking about wide receivers, you walking foreskin.
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I don't know why people fell out of love with Spencer Ware, but it's happened.
Ware's started out hot the past few years but has been broken down in late December and January.

Maybe that changes this year with a healthy West and Kareem Hunt but if the Chiefs can't run the ball effectively late in the season, an early playoff exit should be expected.
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Old 07-25-2017, 02:41 PM   #74
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Dear Lord,

Please make me a mod, that I might ban hammer fools from threads for bringing up Alex Smith playoff losses as positives while we are talking about training camp. I shall make them stick to thy topics, or I will smite them with thy own ruinous hand.

Amen.
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Ware's started out hot the past few years but has been broken down in late December and January.

Maybe that changes this year with a healthy West and Kareem Hunt but if the Chiefs can't run the ball effectively late in the season, an early playoff exit should be expected.
For sure. When the time comes, you still have to run the ball. I think Hunt fits the Reid scheme as well as any back we've had not named Jamaal.
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