Tyler Bray vs Patrick Mahomes II competition for backup

[Rasputin]

This should be a simple poll. Who do you all think will win the backup job to Alex Smith during training camp and preseason competition? Meaning the one that gets to suit up on game days to trust when Alex Smith gets KO~ed out of a game.

Andy Reid said this is a competition so let them duel it out.

Tyler Bray 5th year man being a back up to a backup gives him the edge knowing the system and being around the guys and coaching. He is currently the #2 quarterback.

vs the challenger


Patrick Mahomes II the #10 pick in the first round after trading up 17 spots and has a lot to learn but has desire to be the starting quarterback sooner than later.


This isn't about Alex Smith but who would you trust to go in a game if heaven forbid something happens to our starting quarterback to keep us alive for the playoffs?

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Then your comparing him to Elway

Maybe. I haven't studied Elway.

[Deberg_1990]

No love for Joel Stave?

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Maybe. I haven't studied Elway.

How old are you? Studying Elway is impossible to neglect as a Chiefs fan during the 80's and 90's

[threebag]

I wonder if Mr. Tomahawk is going to polish his knob before after or during his vote?

[Easy 6]

Bray, but only for 2017

Every possible gleaning points to Reid being dead serious about sitting Mahomes this year... Pat isnt being rushed out there when Bray has been slowly groomed here, absorbing the playbook for four years

He deserves the spot, for now anyway

I dont care how thickheaded he might be, Bray is currently ahead of Mahomes on the WCO learning curve

Reid is going to sit Mahomes this year almost no matter what, I'd bet... and I'm good with that, it only makes sense

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

If there were an actual competition, Mahomes.

Of course.

[thegame214]

This is a poll? Tyler Bray won't dress a single regular season game this year you dorks.

[frozenchief]

I bet Bray for a few reasons:

1) Bray knows the playbook

2) We are better off red shirting Mahomes to work on fundamentals and to learn the playbook. Mahomes made an interesting comment after rookie camps. He said something to the effect of, "When I was in college, our playing style made me focus on ensuring the offensive players were in position when I went to the line. Coach Reid is teaching me to focus on where the defensive players are." That shift won't come overnight. Mahomes is not ready for the pro game right now.

3) Team doesnt want to take a chance on injury to Mahomes

4) Nobody wants a QB controversy. Last year, Smith got a concussion in Indy. Foles stepped in and did a decent job but nothing to create waves. What do you think happens if that same thing occurs again and Mahomes is the second string? The outside pressure to start Mahomes would be intense. I make no pretense of knowing what the locker room would say but we already have people on this site arguing that Mahomes will be the starter by Thanksgiving. Andy Reid's press conference today shows he does a great job of putting out fires and reducing conflict. One primary way would be to de-fuse it before it can begin.

I admit it's possible Mahomes will play so well that Reid is forced to make him the number 2 QB but realistically, it is best if Mahomes is #3 this year.

[Chiefshrink]

MyHomey is a lot smarter than Bray with far more athleticism who can think on his feet literally in tough spots. It's taken Bray four years to learn Andy's PB just to get a legit shot at the backup position. Won't take MyHomey that long to learn the Andy's PB IMHO.

[19now11]

kermit the frog isnt gona be a fast learner.

[ARROW2]

If they really had confidence in bray, they wouldn't have given up so much to get mahomes,. You don't learn shit from the ****ing bench.

[007]

Mahomes won't even suit up unless Alex gets injured. Only way he sees the field this year is if both Alex and Tyler are injured or Tyler just plain sucks it up in Alex's absence.

[Nickhead]

we won't see alex in anything preseason until game three, for one quarter. enjoy the bray times ahead

[Eleazar]

We should definitely go with the experienced veteran. You know, that guy who's never taken a snap in the NFL

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by 007

Mahomes won't even suit up unless Alex gets injured. Only way he sees the field this year is if both Alex and Tyler are injured or Tyler just plain sucks it up in Alex's absence.

Yes, but this is a realistic scenario that people need to brace for.


I'm not suggesting Patrick starts this year but the possibilities are there regardless. Unless the Chiefs scour the waiver line or find someone else to bring in that is somewhat better option than Tyler Bray.


I think the competition is great for the players to push themselves to handle it. I don't question Patrick Mahomes II heart and want to get on the field because everything I've heard and read about him seems pretty positive. However I do question Tyler Bray heart and ambitions because it's taking him so long to learn the playbook and get this opportunity that I think he is just content being backup.