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Tyler Bray 53 37.06%
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Old 07-24-2017, 03:10 PM  
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Tyler Bray vs Patrick Mahomes II competition for backup
This should be a simple poll. Who do you all think will win the backup job to Alex Smith during training camp and preseason competition? Meaning the one that gets to suit up on game days to trust when Alex Smith gets KO~ed out of a game.

Andy Reid said this is a competition so let them duel it out.

Tyler Bray 5th year man being a back up to a backup gives him the edge knowing the system and being around the guys and coaching. He is currently the #2 quarterback.

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Patrick Mahomes II the #10 pick in the first round after trading up 17 spots and has a lot to learn but has desire to be the starting quarterback sooner than later.


This isn't about Alex Smith but who would you trust to go in a game if heaven forbid something happens to our starting quarterback to keep us alive for the playoffs?
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Old 07-24-2017, 04:36 PM   #16
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He has already done that, there is an article floating around about his major improvements. He started working on all aspects of his mechanics right after his last game in college.
Yeah, and every year you hear that same damn story about some Qb on some team. It never lasts through the season. They ultimately regress back to their old mechanics.

Reid has even stated that he doesn't like spending a lot of time on a QB's mechanics.

Whatever gains Mahomes has made in non contact, no pressure situations is nice and all...but i don't expect to see Tom Brady out there....ever.
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Old 07-24-2017, 04:44 PM   #17
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I still believe Bray will be the #2. This will be his fifth season in this system. He has more arm strength than Mahomes but it's really close. Mahomes has better accuracy and better mobility.
that's incorrect
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Old 07-24-2017, 04:51 PM   #18
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Imagine if they hadn't corrected Rodgers' mechanics while he sat on the bench being Favre...
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Old 07-24-2017, 05:03 PM   #19
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Probably Bray the first 8 games then Mahomy the other 11
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Old 07-24-2017, 05:14 PM   #20
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Completely disagree. Mechanics are taught with the goal of creating a more accurate passer.

What if you're accurate without those mechanics? Why does your feet placement matter if you're dropping dimes 30 yards downfield?

I don't believe mechanics can be fixed. It's muscle memory at this point.

Mahomes has enough natural accuracy and arm talent to overcome the lack of traditional mechanics. Sure, they should be honed in an effort to be more consistent, but this idea that his mechanics are so far gone that he HAS to sit? I don't buy it.

With that said, i expect to see Mahomes win the #2 job by preseason week 3.
Because mechanics have a lot to do with consistency. Mahomes deep ball is pretty but it is inconsistent. Sometimes it will be perfect, sometimes he'll underthrow it, sometimes overthrow. No throw of his looks alike and unpredictability isn't what you want from the QB position.
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Old 07-24-2017, 05:16 PM   #21
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Imagine if they hadn't corrected Rodgers' mechanics while he sat on the bench being Favre...
Look at Aaron Rodger's lower body in most of these throws. They didn't "Fix" shit. His mechanics are very Mahomes like. VERY Mahomes like.

Like i've said many times before: Initially i hated the Mahomes idea because of his mechanics, and i do not believe QB mechanics get "fixed" in the NFL.

The more i watched him though, the more i realized he doesn't need perfect mechanics to make accurate throws. I realized, he was very Rodgers like.

Most of these clips below are what we'd consider "poor mechanics". For QB's like these, **** MECHANICS

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Get that shit out of your head.

If you've spent any time watching Mahomes then there is no way in hell you can tell me that they aren't similar, damn near identical to Rodgers in this highlight reel.

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Old 07-24-2017, 05:20 PM   #22
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Look at that hop-throw Rodgers makes @ 2sec

How about that off balance, shuffled feet throw @ 15sec?

That throw @ 22seconds where he shuffles his feet? SOOOO Mahomes. That's EXACTLY how Mahomes throws.

@37 Seconds, also not perfect footwork.

I'm not even a minute in. We can do this all damn day.

This Mechanics shit....Waaaaay overblown.
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They changed rogers mechanics, his throwing motion specifically.
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They changed rogers mechanics, his throwing motion specifically.
They've been working with Mahomes on his throwing motion. But you can't watch that above video and tell me Rodgers has great lower body mechanics.

Throwing Motion? Im not worried about it one bit.
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Because mechanics have a lot to do with consistency. Mahomes deep ball is pretty but it is inconsistent. Sometimes it will be perfect, sometimes he'll underthrow it, sometimes overthrow. No throw of his looks alike and unpredictability isn't what you want from the QB position.
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Disagree with his throws not looking alike.

Agree that consistincy is paramount, but disagree that his deep ball is an issue. Yes, he misses sometimes, but remind me what the average NFL completion % is again for balls that travel 20+ through the air?

Not worried about it.
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Look at the footwork @1:07....my god...it's like im watching Mahomes....

I'm tellin' ya guys, forget this mechanics shit. Mahomes will NEVER have great mechanics. Never. And he doesn't need it.
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Look at that throw @ 1:20 that Rodgers makes and tell me about his proper mechanics. We can do this all day.

He is not Manning. He is not Brady. He's Rodgers with a Favre like arm.
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Rogers is the exception to the rule there though. It's all about muscle memory and such.
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Look at that throw @ 1:20 that Rodgers makes and tell me about his proper mechanics. We can do this all day.

He is not Manning. He is not Brady. He's Rodgers with a Favre like arm.
Then your comparing him to Elway
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Rogers is the exception to the rule there though. It's all about muscle memory and such.
Rodgers is the exception because you rarely see arm talent like that. You see it in Mahomes. Mahomes has natural ability.

Most QB's can't accurately throw 60 yard bombs across their body, while running to the left, off balance either. Mahomes does this. Quite regularly, actually.

This is what is exciting about Mahomes. He's oozing with natural ability that most QB's simply don't have.
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