Elway Signs Extension

[Bewbies]

And all of KC fans rejoice!

Broncos and John Elway have agreed to a new 5-year contract that ties him to Denver through the 2021 season, source tells ESPN.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) July 24, 2017

[Amnorix]

Those last four years were less impressive, but the Broncos 2011 and '12 drafts powered their SB runs, and Elway would seem to get some credit for those having been hired in January of '11.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

That somehow counts against him?!? That doesn't make any sense at all.

Of course it does. Have you noticed the name of this website?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

That somehow counts against him?!? That doesn't make any sense at all.

No, it doesn't count against him.

But the only reason he is considered one of the best is because of that and the things that followed. Any GM in the league would look great if they got a HOF QB in free agency.

It's not a knock, but he gets more credit than he deserves for what followed. Truth is he's probably be considered average at best if it didn't. Just look at his drafts.

[RealSNR]

Hey John, aren't you excited about your new extension? Why the long face?

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by staylor26

No, it doesn't count against him.

But the only reason he is considered one of the best is because of that and the things that followed. Any GM in the league would look great if they got a HOF QB in free agency.

It's not a knock, but he gets more credit than he deserves for what followed. Truth is he's probably be considered average at best if it didn't. Just look at his drafts.

Do drafts somehow count more than Wins and Losses? Maybe I'm out of my mind, but I think Wins count more.

2006: 9-7
2007: 7-9
2008 - 8-8
2009: 8-8
2010: 4-12
2011 (Elway's first year): 8-8
2012: (Manning's first year): 13-3
2012: 13-3, Lose SB
2013: 12-4
2014: 12-4, win SB
2015: 12-4
2016: 9-7


And let's face it, they won that SB MOSTLY on the awesomeness of their defense, not Manning's arm. A defense that Manning largely built.

I hate the ****ing Broncos too, but Ugly-ass Horseface is proving to be a pretty good GM, even if his drafts have been pretty weak the last four years. Let's hope that those sucky drafts catch up with them as their team ages.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Considering that the Chiefs traded two second round picks and will pay Alex Smith somewhere around $75 million for play that Trevor Siemian approached last year as a second year player on a 7th round contract, I wouldn't throw too many stones at Elway as a GM.

Weren't people just castigating our departed GM for the contracts of Maclin, Bowe, Hali, et. al despite two months ago thinking he was a top tier GM?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Considering that the Chiefs traded two second round picks and will pay Alex Smith somewhere around $75 million for play that Trevor Siemian approached last year as a second year player on a 7th round contract, I wouldn't throw too many stones at Elway as a GM.

Weren't people just castigating our departed GM for the contracts of Maclin, Bowe, Hali, et. al despite two months ago thinking he was a top tier GM?

Elway is about to miss on his second early QB selection. Semen will never be an above average starter.

I love how people act like one below average year makes Semen as good or better than Alex. I'm not an Alex supporter/defender but that's just ridiculous. He's won may too many games for that kind of disrespect.

[Mile High Mania]

Never any doubt they would get the deal done... enjoying the comments here.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Elway is about to miss on his second early QB selection. Semen will never be an above average starter.

I love how people act like one below average year makes Semen as good or better than Alex. I'm not an Alex supporter/defender but that's just ridiculous. He's won may too many games for that kind of disrespect.

If you can pay Trevor Siemian 600 grand to give you 90% of what Alex Smith gives you for $18 million you've added a shit ton of surplus value that you can use on improving other areas of the team.

Who would fetch more in a trade:

Team 1 offers Alex Smith
Team 2 offers Trevor Siemian+Von Miller.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Never any doubt they would get the deal done... enjoying the comments here.

Me neither..he's been married to that city for decades.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by stevieray

Me neither..he's been married to that city for decades.

Lots of greatness in there... 7 SB appearances and 3 wins. Lots of fun memories and great tales of cheating.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

You guys think he sucks? He became GM in 2011. They missed the playoffs for the five years before that, and since then they have made the playoffs 5 out of 6 years, won the division all five of those years, went to the SB twice, and won it once, while building perhaps the best defense in the NFL.

Peyton Manning

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If you can pay Trevor Siemian 600 grand to give you 90% of what Alex Smith gives you for $18 million you've added a shit ton of surplus value that you can use on improving other areas of the team.

Who would fetch more in a trade:

Team 1 offers Alex Smith
Team 2 offers Trevor Siemian+Von Miller.

That's cool, but you aren't winning a SB with Semen as your QB, just like Alex. He also won't be that cheap after his rookie contract is up.

If Elways misses on Lynch like I think he will, time will show he's being overrated.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

Peyton Manning

Yeah, but would any other GM had been able to lure Manning there in the first place? I recall you guys saying they were a 6 win talent team, no better.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

20 other teams including the Chiefs would have went to the playoffs those same years with PM.