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Old 07-24-2017, 10:06 AM   #2
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Has Veach hit puberty yet?
He just seems young cuz we're all old.
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:07 AM   #3
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Has Veach hit puberty yet?
Charlie got the golden ticket.

Don't crush his dreams...
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:38 AM   #4
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Everything was smooth sailing until this offseason. What are the two biggest WTF moves this offseason?

1. Maclin released via voicemail.

there weeks later

2. Dorsey fired.

Correlation =/= causation, but come on...
I'm thinking that was the final straw. Maybe that was one of the bigger things Dorsey did without communicating with Clark or Andy beforehand.
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:07 AM   #5
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I thought Hunt came off pretty well there.
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:09 AM   #6
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What I really want to know is if there is ever to be a Mike Hunt leading this franchise.

That would be totally tubular.
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:09 AM   #7
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Was t the Alex smith extension after the Carr draft?
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:10 AM   #8
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Was t the Alex smith extension after the Carr draft?
Yes...
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:11 AM   #9
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Was t the Alex smith extension after the Carr draft?
The Alex extension didn't happen until August, well after the 2014 draft.
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:17 AM   #10
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The Alex extension didn't happen until August, well after the 2014 draft.
I'd be willing to bet they were talking extension ever since they had given up 2 second round picks for the guy. It was obvious once the trade was made he wasn't a rent-a-player especially with how he played at the end of 13' and in the playoffs. I'm not buying the Carr theory.
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:10 AM   #11
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My big problem with Clark's comments are that he has 2 guys in that personnel department who are now NFL Gm's. They are highly regarded and you just hired one of them.

It just seems like Clark didn't like John Dorsey. Guy and his staff built a great roster and I don't know how Clark could make garbage statements like he needed the personnel side to match the coaching.

I also don't know if this was stewing since early this year why they let Ballard go.
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My big problem with Clark's comments are that he has 2 guys in that personnel department who are now NFL Gm's. They are highly regarded and you just hired one of them.

It just seems like Clark didn't like John Dorsey. Guy and his staff built a great roster and I don't know how Clark could make garbage statements like he needed the personnel side to match the coaching.

I also don't know if this was stewing since early this year why they let Ballard go.
Seems the Ballard loss did in fact bring a lot of this to the surface
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:17 AM   #13
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My big problem with Clark's comments are that he has 2 guys in that personnel department who are now NFL Gm's. They are highly regarded and you just hired one of them.

It just seems like Clark didn't like John Dorsey. Guy and his staff built a great roster and I don't know how Clark could make garbage statements like he needed the personnel side to match the coaching.

I also don't know if this was stewing since early this year why they let Ballard go.
1) I think Clark is far to fair in letting good talent go. He could have protected them but let them move on.

2) The accounting didn't add up. We signed a ton of guys who were UDFA's or low priced FA's that produced for us in big ways. Despite that we're forced to make deep cuts...
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:17 AM   #14
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My big problem with Clark's comments are that he has 2 guys in that personnel department who are now NFL Gm's. They are highly regarded and you just hired one of them.

It just seems like Clark didn't like John Dorsey. Guy and his staff built a great roster and I don't know how Clark could make garbage statements like he needed the personnel side to match the coaching.

I also don't know if this was stewing since early this year why they let Ballard go.
I get why everyone says that about Ballard. If you manage people though like Clark managed Dorsey, you want to give them every chance to meet your expectations. I'm sure Clark had many conversations with Dorsey about how he wanted things done.

If you are trying to get someone with a LOT of strong attributes to fix a few flaws you really can't hold other people back (like Ballard) just in case it doesn't work out.
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Andy Reid really likes what Veach brings to the table probably baby back ribs
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