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Old 01-22-2019, 01:45 PM  
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Bob Sutton Fired
This is not a drill.
https://www.chiefs.com/news/bob-sutt...dinator-duties
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Old 01-22-2019, 07:25 PM   #241
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Don't listen to him he has no idea what he's talking about. He keeps overrating the Cowboys front 7 like they didn't just change to Kris Richard re-scheming the secondary to a more Seahawks single high coverage, which in return made Jones and the secondary way better. The front 7 hasn't changed. It's still Demarcus Lawrence and Tyrone Crawford doing all the heavy lifting and like you said them taking a flyer on Jaylen Smith and hitting gold.
You have no clue what you are talking about. Byron Jones played safety the last two years. They smartly put him back at CB his natural position this year.

I’m not saying Kris is bad, but he has nowhere near the same pieces to work with here.

Compare Hitchens and Ragland/Rookie to Jaylon Smith and Latten Vander-esch

The Cowboys have 2 first round picks and two third round picks in their secondary. Awuzai and Byron jones being the first rounds and Jordan Lewis and Antwan Woods (sorry 4th rounder)

We didn’t even mention Sean Lee 2nd round, DeMarcus Lawerence 2nd round, Maleke Collins 2nd round

If you take Sean Lee out who started in 3-4, and you go with just the guys the Cowboys have dragged since moving to 4-3 over last 4 years....

That’s
1st Round - awuzai, Byron, vander, taco
2nd round - Jaylon, Gregory, Lawerence, Collins
3rd round - Lewis,

They have spent a shit ton of draft capital getting their defense switched from 3-4 to 4-3
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Old 01-22-2019, 07:30 PM   #242
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Reid once hired Juan Castillo as his Defensive Coordinator. Juan Castillo, who joined the Eagles as an offensive assistant, then was promoted to Tight Ends coach, then promoted to Offensive Line coach, and THEN promoted to Defensive Coordinator because he played linebacker and coached defense at a high school.

And then Reid kept Sutton this year, and repeatedly praised Sutton after the games, for making "great" adjustments at half time.

So, I am hoping that Veatch and even Clark Hunt will have input on who becomes the next DC.

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No way I think Reid is infallible, but you're relying upon Clark Hunt or your misspelling of Brett Veach as a better alternative? Slow down, my friend. We're both on board with change. Let's start from there. CP can unite around ANY defense that's not Bob Sutton.
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Old 01-22-2019, 07:42 PM   #243
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When I played 4-3 DE my first job was to contain the play. No sweeps, runs or QB roll outs around the end. Always force the play inside where LB's and backs can make the play. Sacks happened when the DT's did their job and pushed back the pocket..
Eric Hicks would disagree.
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Old 01-22-2019, 08:32 PM   #244
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I'm afraid firing Sutton is not enough. It sure had to be done but the lack of fundamentals on this defense is not on Bob Sutton, although he is responsible for it as a DC.
I do not expect major improvements in our D unless a good part of the D coaching staff is replaced as well.
Makes no sense to me discussing formations and schemes when you have personnel on the field who can't tackle or break blocks.
This personnel needs to go back to practice fundamentals, and this is not a DC task.
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Old 01-22-2019, 08:38 PM   #245
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We're RUNNING a 4-3, we're GOING back to playing Chiefs Defense, and that's the END OF THE GODDAMNED DEBATE.

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Old 01-22-2019, 08:43 PM   #246
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We're RUNNING a 4-3, we're GOING back to playing Chiefs Defense, and that's the END OF THE GODDAMNED DEBATE.
Ok man.....just calm down big man. This is no time to lose our composure.
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Old 01-22-2019, 08:46 PM   #247
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think you could get Demarcus Lawrence and Earl Thomas with an extra $25m combined?

if you cut Berry and Houston June 1st, that's what you get.

I seriously doubt Dallas lets him go, but the point is-yes, yes we could go get whatever FA we want to.
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Old 01-22-2019, 08:49 PM   #248
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think you could get Demarcus Lawrence and Earl Thomas for $25m combined?

if you cut Berry and Houston June 1st, that's what you get.

I seriously doubt Dallas lets him go, but the point is-yes, yes we could go get whatever FA we want to.
Cutting Berry and Houston is a must
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Old 01-22-2019, 09:00 PM   #249
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Cutting Berry and Houston is a must
Cutting Berry is a must. Restructure Houston if you can
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Cutting Berry is a must. Restructure Houston if you can
As long as you don't end up paying him in retirement.
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Old 01-22-2019, 09:20 PM   #251
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No way I think Reid is infallible, but you're relying upon Clark Hunt or your misspelling of Brett Veach as a better alternative? Slow down, my friend. We're both on board with change. Let's start from there. CP can unite around ANY defense that's not Bob Sutton.
I have a customer with the last name Veatch, and when I type fast sometimes I don't catch it.

And I am not relying on them, just hoping that it's not just Reid's decision, and Veach and Hunt are the two most likely people who could have input that Reid cannot ignore.

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Thanks Bob.
You managed to give up a 28 point lead against the Colts in 2013, an 18 point lead at home last year against the Titans, and earned us the title of first home team to lose a championship game despite having scored 30 points.
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When I played 4-3 DE my first job was to contain the play. No sweeps, runs or QB roll outs around the end. Always force the play inside where LB's and backs can make the play. Sacks happened when the DT's did their job and pushed back the pocket..
That’s how we teach our DEs. Granted it’s 7-9 year olds, but they grasp the concept. Push anything your way inside or make the tackle. Let the LBs and DT make plays in the middle and the opposite DE come in and make the sack/tfl if they stay back.
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