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Old 05-01-2024, 08:51 AM   #2
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Yeah, I'd have drafted Cornelius in the 7th as well. Was my favorite guy left when we made the pick.

But I understand trying to build some IOL depth later in the draft. I just think Johnson has some nice traits that could be coached up.
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Old 05-01-2024, 01:10 PM   #3
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Everyone wants "more depth" at WR....which after last year....ok. But they've got 4 guys there now that are atleast good solid players.
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Old 05-01-2024, 01:22 PM   #4
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Everyone wants "more depth" at WR....which after last year....ok. But they've got 4 guys there now that are atleast good solid players.
And they're not carrying 7. So it's really just a guy who you think may bump Moore from the roster.

Would I like that to be Cornelius Johnson? or Brendan Rice? Sure. Do I think it's terribly likely? No, not really. I can't see a 3rd day pick or UDFA knocking Moore off as a rookie. So if you're looking at a guy you're hoping to sneak onto the PS, well aren't you better served drafting someone that may actually knock Caliendo off and make the 53?

I see their logic in the way they handled it. Just tells me, again, that they like Skyy Moore a LOT more than I do.
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Old 05-01-2024, 02:22 PM   #5
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Everyone wants "more depth" at WR....which after last year....ok. But they've got 4 guys there now that are atleast good solid players.
Not gonna lie, a 1-yr Ring-Chaser deal with OBJ would really set this WR room up for a 3-peat.

Have not been a fan of pursuing him in the past, but I think there's an argument now that it could make sense.
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Old 05-01-2024, 03:47 PM   #6
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Not gonna lie, a 1-yr Ring-Chaser deal with OBJ would really set this WR room up for a 3-peat.

Have not been a fan of pursuing him in the past, but I think there's an argument now that it could make sense.
Yeah - I'd be fine with that.

But I've come to the conclusion that OBJ isn't a ring-chaser. He's closer to Hopkins in this regard.

He's gonna go where he gets paid. He's gonna want $10 million+ to sign somewhere and I'm just not interested at those figures.

OBJ may not even be about the money specifically - it may just be a 'respect' thing for a guy who doesn't realize that he's not the player he was 7 years ago.
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Old 05-01-2024, 05:40 PM   #7
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Yeah - I'd be fine with that.

But I've come to the conclusion that OBJ isn't a ring-chaser. He's closer to Hopkins in this regard.

He's gonna go where he gets paid. He's gonna want $10 million+ to sign somewhere and I'm just not interested at those figures.

OBJ may not even be about the money specifically - it may just be a 'respect' thing for a guy who doesn't realize that he's not the player he was 7 years ago.
He's probably worth that $10m.

My thing is you can't hate on players for wanting $ over a ring. You can't eat that ring, and sports contacts are getting huge in recent years! Would any of us give up several million dollars to join a new company because they were the best in their biz? I wouldn't.
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Old 05-02-2024, 08:31 AM   #8
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He's probably worth that $10m.

My thing is you can't hate on players for wanting $ over a ring. You can't eat that ring, and sports contacts are getting huge in recent years! Would any of us give up several million dollars to join a new company because they were the best in their biz? I wouldn't.
Not at all.

The only real problem I have are guys like Hopkins that are just obviously full of shit. Hopkins has ONLY ever cared about money. And I've said it before about him - cool, do your thing man. It's your job, make your money.

But it ain't gonna be here. And don't bitch about not winning when you went to the team most willing to pay you and not the team most ready to win.

If you want to win - go win and don't complain about being underpayed. If you want to make full market value, go get paid and don't complain about not winning.

These are choices you have to make and either of them are defensible. It's the obnoxious hypocrisy that bugs me.
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Old 05-02-2024, 09:07 AM   #9
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He's probably worth that $10m.

My thing is you can't hate on players for wanting $ over a ring. You can't eat that ring, and sports contacts are getting huge in recent years! Would any of us give up several million dollars to join a new company because they were the best in their biz? I wouldn't.
He really is not.

I don't blame him for trying to get every dime he can, I'm just not interesting in KC paying him what he wants (which is about 2x what he's worth).
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Old 05-01-2024, 01:29 PM   #10
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Hollywood
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Worthy
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Moore
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Infinitely better than last year.
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Old 05-01-2024, 01:44 PM   #11
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Hollywood
Rice
Worthy
Watson
Moore
Toney

Infinitely better than last year.
I mean we started the season with Toney and Moore at the top of the WR room. That's a fairly big change, for sure.

Even if Worthy takes as long or longer to get up to speed than Rice, you still have Brown and (presumably) Rice already in place to keep the WR room at average at least.

Last year's WR room essentially didn't have a floor. I think there was a fair bit of ceiling but essentially none of it worked out. And when that happened that complete lack of a floor killed us. With Brown and Rice, you at least have 'competent if not spectacular' as a solid baseline and even that presumes zero growth from Rice and Brown isn't quick on the uptake in the offense.
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Old 05-01-2024, 10:23 PM   #12
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I’d be happy with OBJ for the same exact deal Hollywood got. Sure.
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Old 05-01-2024, 10:46 PM   #13
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LOL ESPN posted two new articles about their favorite picks in the draft and EVERY SINGLE ONE of our picks was listed if you combine the two LOL

Let's GO!!!
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Old 05-01-2024, 11:17 PM   #14
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I would have given up more to move up for the 2 players we got.

Seriously. Veach is a cheat code.

If you could tell me (before the draft) that we would trade all of our otger picks to move up to get Worthy AND Kingsley without using any picks from next year…I’d have said to pull the trigger.

The rest of this amazing draft class is just extra icing.

Build the statue.
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Old 05-02-2024, 12:29 AM   #15
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I think the argument for WR goes beyond this year. Yes it's a pretty crowded room and there's not much space to stash guys. But Holywood is gone next year, we're not taking Toney's 5th year and there's a good chance he's gone, on top of Moore looking awful. It would be as much about double dipping during what looks like, to me, an excellent year for WRs, to future-proof the position.

But like I say, I've no great issue with us not given the picks taken.
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