Call Your Shot: Who's the Chiefs first pick?

[gordonelloyd]

Originally Posted by Hoover

Bart Veach is feeling it. A year after no team would trade with the Chiefs, suddenly teams are willing to dance. With the Chris Jones contract saga now settled, and L'Jarius Sneed in Nashville, for the first time in years Bart has a pretty clear roadmap on what the future needs of his team are, and he makes a huge move to fill the biggest hole on team when he makes a draft day blockbuster trade that the Chiefs have not seen since they drafted Mahomes.

Instead of trading up for a franchise quarterback, Veach is now pushing all his chips into the middle of the table to select Mahomes' blindside defender, Joe Alt, who slips down just far enough that Veach at the Chiefs have enough draft capital (this year and next year's first rounder plus some change) to finally end Veach's four season long quest to find a long term solution for the LT position.

While risky and expensive, the move provides Mahomes and the Chiefs bookend left and right tackles under control not the near future. Their remaining draft capital can still fill needs at wr, guard, and along the defensive line. If Alt, the best LT prospect pans out, the Chiefs will extend their playoff window and continue to challenge for even more championships.

This would be my ideal outcome also. We could get a good WR at 64. And maybe we would be lucky at TE in round three.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by gordonelloyd

This would be my ideal outcome also. We could get a good WR at 64. And maybe we would be lucky at TE in round three.

This team will be in the ship as many times as Mahomes' health allows.
Maximize that timeframe and prevent the easiest route to putting him on the ground.

[Womble]

I will chunder everywhere if we draft Jag McConkey.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Womble

I will chunder everywhere if we draft Jag McConkey.

Guaranteed you saw a white WR on the smaller side and made up your mind instantly.

[Womble]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Guaranteed you saw a white WR on the smaller side and made up your mind instantly.

No. I made up my mind based on how average his numbers were playing for essentially an NFL team in the college game against totally inferior opponents. If you're playing second fiddle to your tight end in the college game you aren't a 1st round WR. He's also not the deep ball specialist we really need and has a high drop rate. Plenty other WRs out there who have produced more on the field and who have higher upside..Legette and Franklin being 2 of them who should be available at pick 32.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Womble

No. I made up my mind based on how average his numbers were playing for essentially an NFL team in the college game against totally inferior opponents. If you're playing second fiddle to your tight end in the college game you aren't a 1st round WR. He's also not the deep ball specialist we really need and has a high drop rate. Plenty other WRs out there who have produced more on the field and who have higher upside..Legette and Franklin being 2 of them who should be available at pick 32.

1. Georgia is a run first team. All of their talented WRs over the year have struggled to produce, including George Pickens. McConkey was more productive than any of them.

2. McConkey has been productive when healthy and on the field. He had almost 800 yards and 7 TDs 2 years ago. Bowers is arguably the GOAT college TE, so not being as productive as him isn't the knock you think it is.

3. When you look at stuff like yards per route run, the production is fine compared to his peers, and the bigger issue has been health and opportunities in that offense.

4. Production is just one part of the equation. Put on the tape and watch how easy the guy got separation in the ****ing SEC. Then watch him pull away from those guys and show off that sub 4.4 speed with the ball in his hands in the open field.

5. Go back and watch him absolutely destroy dudes at the Senior Bowl practices. Nobody could cover him, even projected top 20 pick Quinton Mitchell.

6. Look at this athletic/size profile and see how comparable he is to guys like Garret Wilson and Chris Olave. This isn't your typical smaller white WR, hence why "jag" is a lazy analysis.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by staylor26

1. Georgia is a run first team. All of their talented WRs over the year have struggled to produce, including George Pickens. McConkey was more productive than any of them.

2. McConkey has been productive when healthy and on the field. He had almost 800 yards and 7 TDs 2 years ago. Bowers is arguably the GOAT college TE, so not being as productive as him isn't the knock you think it is.

3. When you look at stuff like yards per route run, the production is fine compared to his peers, and the bigger issue has been health and opportunities in that offense.

4. Production is just one part of the equation. Put on the tape and watch how easy the guy got separation in the ****ing SEC. Then watch him pull away from those guys and show off that sub 4.4 speed with the ball in his hands in the open field.

5. Go back and watch him absolutely destroy dudes at the Senior Bowl practices. Nobody could cover him, even projected top 20 pick Quinton Mitchell.

6. Look at this athletic/size profile and see how comparable he is to guys like Garret Wilson and Chris Olave. This isn't your typical smaller white WR, hence why "jag" is a lazy analysis.

McConkey missed the first 4 stat padding games last year vs. UT Martin, Ball State, South Carolina and UAB with SC being the only decent team. His stats last year look a lot better in that context.

[Womble]

Originally Posted by staylor26

1. Georgia is a run first team. All of their talented WRs over the year have struggled to produce, including George Pickens. McConkey was more productive than any of them.

2. McConkey has been productive when healthy and on the field. He had almost 800 yards and 7 TDs 2 years ago. Bowers is arguably the GOAT college TE, so not being as productive as him isn't the knock you think it is.

3. When you look at stuff like yards per route run, the production is fine compared to his peers, and the bigger issue has been health and opportunities in that offense.

4. Production is just one part of the equation. Put on the tape and watch how easy the guy got separation in the ****ing SEC. Then watch him pull away from those guys and show off that sub 4.4 speed with the ball in his hands in the open field.

5. Go back and watch him absolutely destroy dudes at the Senior Bowl practices. Nobody could cover him, even projected top 20 pick Quinton Mitchell.

6. Look at this athletic/size profile and see how comparable he is to guys like Garret Wilson and Chris Olave. This isn't your typical smaller white WR, hence why "jag" is a lazy analysis.

A lot of what you've listed here and previously were supposedly Skyy Moore's attributes.

In McConkey's best ever season as a WR where he clearly was the WR1 he had just 250 more receiving yards than the ****ing running back (who can't get a game for the Seahawks). You can talk all you want about separation etc but I've heard it all before with our other shitty WRs who apparently get separation but Mahomes needs to be better. If he was first round pick worthy he would have been a much more important piece to that offense. I also don't care how good Bowers is..our 1st round WR will be going to a team with the GOAT tight end and there still should be the expectation that they should outperform him in yardage in their 2nd year, like Tyreek did. If he's second fiddle to a college tight end then he's going to be second fiddle to ours and that's not good enough.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Originally Posted by Womble

I will chunder everywhere if we draft Jag McConkey.

I'm just the opposite. I'd be happy if we got him at #32.

But then I watched a bunch of his college games, combine workouts, and Senior Bowl practices and know how good he is, instead of just making uninformed stereotypical assumptions.

[ForeverIowan]

It wasnt left tackle play that cost us over and over and over again last year. It was receiver. I hope Veach keeps that in mind. Especially if they anticipate Rashee out for much of the year. Do not want to go on the road twice again in the playoffs.

[Hoover]

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan

It wasnt left tackle play that cost us over and over and over again last year. It was receiver. I hope Veach keeps that in mind. Especially if they anticipate Rashee out for much of the year. Do not want to go on the road twice again in the playoffs.

Sure, but this team was toast until Smith came back. If you are trading up, its to protect Mahomes, your biggest investment, for the long term. You can figure out WR. The problem with last year is that we thought we had something in Skyy Moore and Toney, and we ended up not having shit. We also thought we had a vet in MVS. We were bad at WR because we placed too much hope in guys who have never really done shit.

[kc79]

Troy Franklin

[bigjosh]

Offensive Reload year incoming


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[Rausch]

Originally Posted by bigjosh

Offensive Reload year incoming


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I'd love Guerendo in the 5th.