***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Any positive news today? Anything flattening out?

[RollChiefsRoll]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Any positive news today? Anything flattening out?

A few smooth brains are getting smoother over in DC.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Any positive news today? Anything flattening out?

Yesterday

32,284 new cases. 1,328 deaths.

Today (so far)

30,963 new cases. 991 deaths.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Any positive news today? Anything flattening out?

503 employees in Wichita are safer due to state mandates, but no thanks to upper management in that decision.

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Yup, too many people in the USA have been living above their means for too long.

People are stressing over their mortgage and I'm stressing over my property taxes. Mortgage people will get some relief, but people who live within their means are ****ed.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

People are stressing over their mortgage and I'm stressing over my property taxes. Mortgage people will get some relief, but people who live within their means are ****ed.

My property tax is due April 10th and the state of California isn't giving any relief. If it's paid after the 10th, there's nearly a $1,000 penalty for me.

Fortunately, the money isn't an issue on my end but I'd be surprised if it wasn't for millions of Californians.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Donger

Yesterday

32,284 new cases. 1,328 deaths.

Today (so far)

30,963 new cases. 991 deaths.

How many left to report?

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Can we make this his avatar while we’re at it?

Great time to sell nooses! Always a come-up.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by TLO

How many left to report?

OR, NH, and NM

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

People are stressing over their mortgage and I'm stressing over my property taxes. Mortgage people will get some relief, but people who live within their means are ****ed.

You don't escrow?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

People are stressing over their mortgage and I'm stressing over my property taxes. Mortgage people will get some relief, but people who live within their means are ****ed.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

My property tax is due April 10th and the state of California isn't giving any relief. If it's paid after the 10th, there's nearly a $1,000 penalty for me.

Fortunately, the money isn't an issue on my end but I'd be surprised if it wasn't for millions of Californians.

I’ve always put my property taxes, flood and regular house insurance into an escrow with the mortgage payment. Welllll after once getting unexpectantly caught with a $5K bill.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by TLO

How many left to report?

Looks like just New Hampshire.

California final numbers bumped it.

Now 32,567 new cases and 1,037 deaths.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Looks like just New Hampshire.

California final numbers bumped it.

Now 32,567 new cases and 1,037 deaths.

A relative repeat on cases, and drop in deaths. Let's take it, and let's hope for another tomorrow and so on. It's going to be great to see it go convex.

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by Donger

You don't escrow?

It is way easier to loop in your taxes and insurance into your monthly payments but some people don't like other people holding on to their money I guess.

I don't own but I'd sure as hell loop them in rather than relying on myself to pay a huge chunk every year but I'm one of those people who tells people how to invest and use their money wisely while screwing it up myself.

Like a surgeon who smokes.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I’ve always put my property taxes, flood and regular house insurance into an escrow with the mortgage payment. Welllll after once getting unexpectantly caught with a $5K bill.

We purchased our home in 2003 and refinanced in 2012.

During that time, property tax had to be paid directly to the county because Jumbo Loans weren't eligible for Property Tax escrow. Same for home owner's insurance - I pay directly each month.

I don't know if the law has been changed since but I'm required by LA County to pay my property taxes on time in November and April or face massive penalties.