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Old 07-25-2017, 12:10 PM  
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Old 07-27-2017, 01:52 PM   #376
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$2.8 million.

I stated just yesterday that Reid should be cut and replaced by a guy like Witzmann.

24 hours later...
Veach reads CP!!
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Old 07-27-2017, 01:53 PM   #377
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According to OTC, Reid saves about $2.1M this year. We can roll that over to next year though, so it still helps long term.
He'd be a Post June 1st cut because it's post June 1st.

His total Cap Hit is $3,562,500.

Dead Money is $775k, Cap Savings $2,787,500.
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Old 07-27-2017, 02:07 PM   #378
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He'd be a Post June 1st cut because it's post June 1st.

His total Cap Hit is $3,562,500.

Dead Money is $775k, Cap Savings $2,787,500.
Ahh I figured OTC would have already accounted for that. In that case, it's a pretty easy call to release him if they trust Witzmann.
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Old 07-27-2017, 02:14 PM   #379
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Ahh I figured OTC would have already accounted for that. In that case, it's a pretty easy call to release him if they trust Witzmann.
Yeah, you have to use the drop down to change it from pre-June 1st (which is the default) to Post June 1st.
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Old 07-27-2017, 02:16 PM   #380
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Per Terez Paylor

Witzmann's extension is for an additional year (through 2018), per a source.
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Old 07-27-2017, 02:18 PM   #381
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Witzmann just made the roster, then. Could this spell the end for Jah Reid?
Jah knowit
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Old 07-27-2017, 02:31 PM   #382
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According to Terez Paylor, Witzmann split first team reps at left guard with Fulton at OTAs. Perhaps he is competing for that job as well? Maybe Reid isn't gone just yet.
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Old 07-27-2017, 02:36 PM   #383
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According to Terez Paylor, Witzmann split first team reps at left guard with Fulton at OTAs. Perhaps he is competing for that job as well? Maybe Reid isn't gone just yet.
How long is Ehringer out for?
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Old 07-27-2017, 02:39 PM   #384
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It's possible for players to emerge from the 3-4 year practice squad-and-cut cycle and turn into starter-quality players. Ron Parker is a clear example on our own team of just that.

I'm... still not going to hold my breath on Witzmann, though. It's nice that he's been with the team already as an inactive player every week, but when you've traveled that much and been tossed around that much, it's rare for guys to just find not only that 2nd-life gear that occurs when everything clicks for them, but also to find the OPPORTUNITY to demonstrate it.

And yeah, he's splitting first team reps now. Great for him. We've seen that before with Eric Kush and Rishaw Johnson.

OL just seems to be one of those positions where just because it's MORE common to find diamonds-in-the-rough for that position group over others, it doesn't mean that every guy who comes along as an undrafted free agent and has plus size/strength/whatever attributes will be your next starting OG.
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Old 07-27-2017, 02:45 PM   #385
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It's possible for players to emerge from the 3-4 year practice squad-and-cut cycle and turn into starter-quality players. Ron Parker is a clear example on our own team of just that.

I'm... still not going to hold my breath on Witzmann, though. It's nice that he's been with the team already as an inactive player every week, but when you've traveled that much and been tossed around that much, it's rare for guys to just find not only that 2nd-life gear that occurs when everything clicks for them, but also to find the OPPORTUNITY to demonstrate it.

And yeah, he's splitting first team reps now. Great for him. We've seen that before with Eric Kush and Rishaw Johnson.

OL just seems to be one of those positions where just because it's MORE common to find diamonds-in-the-rough for that position group over others, it doesn't mean that every guy who comes along as an undrafted free agent and has plus size/strength/whatever attributes will be your next starting OG.
I don't disagree. Wiztmann was a small school guy (South Dakata State), so the learning curve is a little steeper.

Eric Kush started for the Bears last year. I realize that they weren't a good team but he is a legit NFL player.

Clearly, the Chiefs invested in Morse so there wasn't room for Kush.
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Old 07-27-2017, 02:52 PM   #386
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Can he play tackle as well? I'm not sure the reason for Reid sticking around, he doesn't seem that gold
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Old 07-27-2017, 03:18 PM   #387
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I know passing over Rodgers is one of the biggest misses in team history, but man DJ is an all timer.

He's one of my favorite Chiefs ever.
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Old 07-27-2017, 03:20 PM   #388
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Old 07-27-2017, 03:20 PM   #389
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Can he play tackle as well? I'm not sure the reason for Reid sticking around, he doesn't seem that gold
Yes, he's a Guard/Tackle.

6'7, 320. He seems a bit tall for a guard but apparently, he can play low.
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Old 07-27-2017, 03:31 PM   #390
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Clifford is waxed and ready for the season.

I will miss a few games this year on chat. Kid 1 is at North Dakota State and made the dance team. We will be coming back home during a few of the games.

But at least I can listen in the truck.
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