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Old 01-24-2010, 05:39 PM   #2
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milkman also doesn't think much of barry sanders--not in his top three all-time RBs. go figure.
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Old 01-24-2010, 05:42 PM   #3
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milkman also doesn't think much of barry sanders--not in his top three all-time RBs. go figure.
I don't know if I'd put Barry in my top 3, either.
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Old 01-24-2010, 06:02 PM   #4
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milkman also doesn't think much of barry sanders--not in his top three all-time RBs. go figure.
Sanders was a great RB, but he never fully understood when to simply take what the defense gave him.

Now, admittedly, we might have missed a few electrifying runs had he done that, but the fact is, losing yardage is not a recipe for team success.

I'll take the guys that are almost always moving forward.
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Old 01-24-2010, 05:50 PM   #5
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Magic made the players around him better, not only raising teh level of their strenths, but also their weaknesses.

Did you ever see James Worthy try moving to his left, and doing ot well without Magic.

He (Worthy) was the absolute worst I've ever seen moving to his weak side, without Magic.

He looked fluid and smooth with.

Michel never had that kind of effect.
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Old 01-24-2010, 05:52 PM   #6
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Magic made the players around him better, not only raising teh level of their strenths, but also their weaknesses.

Did you ever see James Worthy try moving to his left, and doing ot well without Magic.

He (Worthy) was the absolute worst I've ever seen moving to his weak side, without Magic.

He looked fluid and smooth with.

Michel never had that kind of effect.
Which is why the Bulls won the championship the year he wasn't there.
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Old 01-24-2010, 06:06 PM   #7
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Magic made the players around him better, not only raising teh level of their strenths, but also their weaknesses.

Did you ever see James Worthy try moving to his left, and doing ot well without Magic.

He (Worthy) was the absolute worst I've ever seen moving to his weak side, without Magic.

He looked fluid and smooth with.

Michel never had that kind of effect.
Your kidding right? MJ had Scottie Pippen... Magic had Worthy, Michael Cooper, Kareem, and Byron Scott.

Also let's not forget MJ owning Magic and the Lakers in the Finals.
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Old 01-24-2010, 06:09 PM   #8
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Magic made the players around him better, not only raising teh level of their strenths, but also their weaknesses.

Did you ever see James Worthy try moving to his left, and doing ot well without Magic.

He (Worthy) was the absolute worst I've ever seen moving to his weak side, without Magic.

He looked fluid and smooth with.

Michel never had that kind of effect.
They are different kind of players. Magic was basically a power forward playing PG. Magic's role was to distribute the ball. Jordan's role was to dominate because no one ever had the skills he did to score. His' defense wasnt to shabby either.

I am a Life long Lakers fan since i was a kid in the early 80's and Magic is a GREAT player, but Jordan is the best. Magic has players that fit what he did. Jordan had players that FIT what he did.
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Old 01-24-2010, 05:50 PM   #9
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Michael Jordan couldn't hold Wilt's jock, and I'd rather have Magic than Michael.


you're so stupid
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Old 01-24-2010, 05:53 PM   #10
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Like your opinion really matters.
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Old 01-24-2010, 05:55 PM   #11
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Like your opinion really matters.
you're a ****ing moron...and not for Peyton Manning...at least that is a debate...

the Michael Jordan thing isn't even close to a debate...

and you're a moron for suggesting otherwise...

a moron of epic proportions...
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Old 01-24-2010, 06:26 PM   #12
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Michael Jordan couldn't hold Wilt's jock, and I'd rather have Magic than Michael.
Wow.

Wilt, the guy who cared so much about stats he decided one year he wanted to lead the league in assists, who asked out of crunch time in Game 7 of the Finals, whose teams were routinely destroyed by Bill Russell's Celtics despite having equivalent talent.

And Magic Johnson was a horrible defensive player. Jordan is probably...no check, is definitely the greatest defensive guard ever in addition to holding the all-time mark for career scoring.

Dude...just, no.
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Old 01-24-2010, 06:40 PM   #13
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Wow.

Wilt, the guy who cared so much about stats he decided one year he wanted to lead the league in assists, who asked out of crunch time in Game 7 of the Finals, whose teams were routinely destroyed by Bill Russell's Celtics despite having equivalent talent.

And Magic Johnson was a horrible defensive player. Jordan is probably...no check, is definitely the greatest defensive guard ever in addition to holding the all-time mark for career scoring.

Dude...just, no.
Wilts teams had equivilant talent? Are you insane? Russell had like 6 Hall of Famers playing with him. The only times Wilt had talent around him equal to the Celtics was in 66-67 with the Sixers and he went 68-13 and with the Lakers,where he went 69-13.
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Old 01-24-2010, 06:49 PM   #14
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Wilts teams had equivilant talent? Are you insane? Russell had like 6 Hall of Famers playing with him. The only times Wilt had talent around him equal to the Celtics was in 66-67 with the Sixers and he went 68-13 and with the Lakers,where he went 69-13.
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Again, like I told Dirk, read The Book of Basketball. There is an entire chapter devoted to Wilt vs. Russell, including an entire section debunking the myth that Russell had better surrounding talent.
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Wilts teams had equivilant talent? Are you insane? Russell had like 6 Hall of Famers playing with him. The only times Wilt had talent around him equal to the Celtics was in 66-67 with the Sixers and he went 68-13 and with the Lakers,where he went 69-13.
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some of the guys who made it into the HoF... made it because of the amount of rings they had... its like they gave congrats to the whole team because of there success they had during that time period..but the one constant was Bill Russell

KC Jones never even average 10 points (the closest was a little over 9)...never made an allstar team... yet made it into the Hall as a player...

Russell even outdid Wilt in college despite playing for an unknown college team... while Wilt played for a big time college... Russell just knew what it took to win...
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