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Old 07-26-2017, 05:54 PM   #2
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Dorsey is going to build another team.. and win a SB...Reid is going to have his feel good locker room.
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Gross, fake...and shallow.

NFL is going to eat itself...
Hot DAMN you are on a roll today.
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Old 07-27-2017, 12:30 AM   #3
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Hot DAMN you are on a roll today.
No roll....my take away from this bureaucratic tug-of-war is Reid is a liar/ego maniac and just forced out the best GM KC has seen in my lifetime...and CHunt is a spineless turd who just gave the keys to his inherited franchise to his surrogate father figure. I haven't said anything negative about Reid (since he came here) until this went down...but I've realized, I dont really like him. Creepy-ass Mormon phony...always trying to act oblivious/ignorant to internal goings-on..."That's Dorse..I dont mess with that". Yeah right...

This whole "They report separately to me" system was horsehit...they never had equal footing.

Meh...there is a reason this team hasn't done shit in 50 years. I shouldn't be surprised. Chiefs just got a lot worse....at least the entitled brats in the LR can rejoice in the fact that "almost" is always good enough for KC...without fear of being held accountable.

This whole scenario makes me appreciate Belichick and his system that much more....there wouldn't be any hurt "feels" over cutting a 12.4 million, 2 td WR. They are in the business of winning championships...Reid has a happy, "feel good" locker-room that chokes when the lights are on. (how many dropped passes against Pittsburgh...Colts historic comeback)

"Almost Good Enough" should be the banners at training camp....or "We'll Get'em Next Time"

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Old 07-27-2017, 01:11 AM   #4
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No roll....my take away from this bureaucratic tug-of-war is Reid is a liar/ego maniac and just forced out the best GM KC has seen in my lifetime...and CHunt is a spineless turd who just gave the keys to his inherited franchise to his surrogate father figure. I haven't said anything negative about Reid (since he came here) until this went down...but I've realized, I dont really like him. Creepy-ass Mormon phony...always trying to act oblivious/ignorant to internal goings-on..."That's Dorse..I dont mess with that". Yeah right...

This whole "They report separately to me" system was horsehit...they never had equal footing.

Meh...there is a reason this team hasn't done shit in 50 years. I shouldn't be surprised. Chiefs just got a lot worse....at least the entitled brats in the LR can rejoice in the fact that "almost" is always good enough for KC...without fear of being held accountable.

This whole scenario makes me appreciate Belichick and his system that much more....there wouldn't be any hurt "feels" over cutting a 12.4 million, 2 td WR. They are in the business of winning championships...Reid has a happy, "feel good" locker-room that chokes when the lights on.
Agreed.
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Old 07-27-2017, 01:28 AM   #5
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Agreed.
This whole play-out reeks of amateur hour ownership... You dont fire your highly successful GM on your HC's whims.
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Old 07-27-2017, 06:02 AM   #6
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This whole play-out reeks of amateur hour ownership... You dont fire your highly successful GM on your HC's whims.
This irritates me so much. The best GM we've had since the time of Hank Stram, maybe ever, and we just fired him.
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Old 07-27-2017, 06:24 AM   #7
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This whole play-out reeks of amateur hour ownership... You dont fire your highly successful GM on your HC's whims.
That was my first and gut reaction to the firing.
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Old 07-27-2017, 08:00 AM   #8
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This irritates me so much. The best GM we've had since the time of Hank Stram, maybe ever, and we just fired him.
Dorsey was excellent at finding hidden gems. He excelled in the later rounds and on the waiver wire. He's an incredible scout. But you have to admit he was lacking in contract negotiations, and in management. He was far from perfect. I don't think that's why he was fired. I don't know why he was fired, but there were several situations he mishandled. Did the good outweigh the bad? Yes, I think so, and on job performance (that the fans know about) he should still be the GM. So I'm going with there's more to the story.
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Old 07-27-2017, 01:55 AM   #9
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No roll....my take away from this bureaucratic tug-of-war is Reid is a liar/ego maniac and just forced out the best GM KC has seen in my lifetime...and CHunt is a spineless turd who just gave the keys to his inherited franchise to his surrogate father figure. I haven't said anything negative about Reid (since he came here) until this went down...but I've realized, I dont really like him. Creepy-ass Mormon phony...always trying to act oblivious/ignorant to internal goings-on..."That's Dorse..I dont mess with that". Yeah right...

This whole "They report separately to me" system was horsehit...they never had equal footing.

Meh...there is a reason this team hasn't done shit in 50 years. I shouldn't be surprised. Chiefs just got a lot worse....at least the entitled brats in the LR can rejoice in the fact that "almost" is always good enough for KC...without fear of being held accountable.

This whole scenario makes me appreciate Belichick and his system that much more....there wouldn't be any hurt "feels" over cutting a 12.4 million, 2 td WR. They are in the business of winning championships...Reid has a happy, "feel good" locker-room that chokes when the lights are on. (how many dropped passes against Pittsburgh...Colts historic comeback)

"Almost Good Enough" should be the banners at training camp....or "We'll Get'em Next Time"
this is all conjecture and opinion. totally worthless.
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Old 07-27-2017, 02:34 AM   #10
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this is all conjecture and opinion. totally worthless.
Wish I cared..but I dont.

Enjoy the Chiefs...and the product they're selling you.

I'm about 2-3 weeks from tuning out anyway...regular season is fodder for the masses. A much as I want to be excited about which new advertisements they will be showing..I'm just not.
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Old 07-27-2017, 04:58 AM   #11
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Wish I cared..but I dont.

Enjoy the Chiefs...and the product they're selling you.

I'm about 2-3 weeks from tuning out anyway...regular season is fodder for the masses. A much as I want to be excited about which new advertisements they will be showing..I'm just not.
You come in here talking all shit stuff for you not to care huh?
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Old 07-27-2017, 05:57 AM   #12
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this is all conjecture and opinion. totally worthless.
People who insist that Reid wasn't involved in Dorsey being fired is conjecture too. You know what isn't conjecture? That Reid could have saved Dorsey but he didn't.
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Old 07-27-2017, 08:24 PM   #13
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People who insist that Reid wasn't involved in Dorsey being fired is conjecture too. You know what isn't conjecture? That Reid could have saved Dorsey but he didn't.
That is also conjecture. Hunt said it was his decision. Absent any evidence to the contrary everything else is conjecture.
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Old 07-28-2017, 02:25 PM   #14
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That is also conjecture. Hunt said it was his decision. Absent any evidence to the contrary everything else is conjecture.
Reid tells Hunt during his contract negotiations that if Dorsey leaves he won't sign a new contract. No way Hunt loses both Dorsey and Reid so Andy has just saved Dorsey.

Andy didn't want to save Dorsey for whatever reason.
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Old 07-27-2017, 12:24 PM   #15
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No roll....my take away from this bureaucratic tug-of-war is Reid is a liar/ego maniac and just forced out the best GM KC has seen in my lifetime...and CHunt is a spineless turd who just gave the keys to his inherited franchise to his surrogate father figure. I haven't said anything negative about Reid (since he came here) until this went down...but I've realized, I dont really like him. Creepy-ass Mormon phony...always trying to act oblivious/ignorant to internal goings-on..."That's Dorse..I dont mess with that". Yeah right...
I don't think any of the "Reid had nothing to do with it" stuff adds up, at all. Obviously, Hunt would have spoken to Reid and Reid would have agreed that Dorsey should be pushed out. Hunt isn't going to do that without talking to Reid.

Whether it originated from Reid, wholly or in part, no one is ever going to say, but it's pretty clear that Reid is the owner's guy and is calling the shots, not anyone else.

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This whole scenario makes me appreciate Belichick and his system that much more....there wouldn't be any hurt "feels" over cutting a 12.4 million, 2 td WR. They are in the business of winning championships...Reid has a happy, "feel good" locker-room that chokes when the lights are on.
Exactly.

The teams that win Super Bowls aren't doing this.

They hire the right GM. They keep him for 10, 15 years or longer. Ownership lets him run the team. He hires the right head coaches. They rarely change head coaches. There is competence, stability, and continuity.

(4 GMs in Clark's tenure - more than half the general managers in Chiefs' 57-year history have worked for Clark in the last 10 years.)
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