***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Well his temp is down to 98.8 which is the lowest it has been in 2 days so I guess that is progress. I am sure it is nothing to be overly concerned about but JFC I can see how people just freak out at the littlest sign of things. I mean this sparks all kinds of questions though. Should I go back to work on Monday? Should we all isolate for 14 days? Are well all just fine?

****ed up times we are in at the moment ....

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Probably not. With the way his tonsils are swollen I an leaning towards he has some kind of strep maybe? The doctors were not very concerned as of yet. Have to monitor his fever and see how it goes I guess.

Why didn’t they test him for strep? It’s an easy enough test.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Why didn’t they test him for strep? It’s an easy enough test.

We didn't notice the tonsils until tonight. With it being Saturday and all his normal doctor's office isn't really open. They are saying if his fever isn't down by Tuesday to bring him in. He is eating and drinking and acting like nothing is wrong. Just every now and then he will say his throat hurts when he swallows.

[Three7s]

Originally Posted by petegz28

So been dealing with the a bit of uninvited excitement this weekend. Son came home from daycare Thursday night coughing but stopped after a bit. Friday the sitter called and said he was just acting a little lethargic and running a 99.2. Picked him up and took him home and he was running 99.9. Late last night he told my Wife his throat was sore. This morning he woke up running 102. Called the doctor and she said she thinks it it is just a virus, not Covid. Temp went down to 99 then back to 102 then back to 99. Finally looked at his throat and his tonsils look pretty swollen.

I wouldn't think much of it but with all this shit going on it's really ****ed up. He has a very recent history of pneumonia so that adds to the stress of it all.

Hope he gets better soon and that it's just a bug. I can relate to how easy it is to overreact to even the slightest of symptoms with this since COVID 19 is so similar to literally the most common illnesses in existence.

Shoot, I've had a sore throat and congestion since May started because of these lousy allergies and temperature changes. I just tell myself to ignore them unless more symptoms start showing up, but so far, it's just been the usual.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Three7s

Hope he gets better soon and that it's just a bug. I can relate to how easy it is to overreact to even the slightest of symptoms with this since COVID 19 is so similar to literally the most common illnesses in existence.

Shoot, I've had a sore throat and congestion since May started because of these lousy allergies and temperature changes. I just tell myself to ignore them unless more symptoms start showing up, but so far, it's just been the usual.

And that's what we thought it was at first was allergies. We have been giving him Claritin all week and then today he really had the fever spike. I mean based on everything we have seen and know so far the odds of this being Covd are fairly low. It's just all the other crap that goes along with it. Hell, even if he did have Covid he would probably make make out better than most.

This whole thing just sucks and I hope to God all this crap we are going through isn't for nothing.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by petegz28

And that's what we thought it was at first was allergies. We have been giving him Claritin all week and then today he really had the fever spike. I mean based on everything we have seen and know so far the odds of this being Covd are fairly low. It's just all the other crap that goes along with it. Hell, even if he did have Covid he would probably make make out better than most.

This whole thing just sucks and I hope to God all this crap we are going through isn't for nothing.

I hope it's nothing serious and he recovers and starts feeling better soon, pete. Keeping you guys in my thoughts.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Pants

I hope it's nothing serious and he recovers and starts feeling better soon, pete. Keeping you guys in my thoughts.

Thanks, bro!

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Why didn’t they test him for strep? It’s an easy enough test.

Getting a child in to a physical pediatric appointment right now is the logistical equivalent of escaping from Alcatraz. I basically had to wear a HAZMAT suit and send my son through a vacuum tube for his 15 month appointment on Friday. As I’m sure you know, things that used to be easy enough are suddenly much more involved.

[Baby Lee]

PSA!!!

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Strongside

Getting a child in to a physical pediatric appointment right now is the logistical equivalent of escaping from Alcatraz. I basically had to wear a HAZMAT suit and send my son through a vacuum tube for his 15 month appointment on Friday. As I’m sure you know, things that used to be easy enough are suddenly much more involved.

If you have 2 symptoms of COVID you can go to many Urgent Care’s here and get tested for COVID, strep and influenza all for your co-pay. Some have results in hours and others about 2 days.

[petegz28]

Poor kid woke up this morning with 101 and saying his throat hurts again. His tonsils really look swollen at least I think

[petegz28]

We're taking him to convenient care here in a bit.....

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Poor kid woke up this morning with 101 and saying his throat hurts again. His tonsils really look swollen at least I think

Ugh, that sucks Pete. I hope he improves soon.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

We're taking him to convenient care here in a bit.....

Good plan.

Weird but rooting for strep here!

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Good plan.

Weird but rooting for strep here!

Hading out now and I totally get it. I am rooting for it too.