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Old 04-11-2024, 12:56 PM   #2
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I'm still not sure what logic leads you to believe we even have a hole at punter.
Until I know he's good at punting, I can't say he's good at punting.

The last punt I saw him boot was three years ago. The Jets took a look at him and elected to go elsewhere.
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Old 04-11-2024, 01:11 PM   #3
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Until I know he's good at punting, I can't say he's good at punting.

The last punt I saw him boot was three years ago. The Jets took a look at him and elected to go elsewhere.
The Jets had just signed Morstead three weeks prior to working out Araiza and were going to be on the hook for 1.1 million in cap whether he kicked for them or not.
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Old 04-12-2024, 11:18 AM   #4
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The Jets had just signed Morstead three weeks prior to working out Araiza and were going to be on the hook for 1.1 million in cap whether he kicked for them or not.
That's all fine and fair.

Nobody else brought him in (that we know of). That's all I'm saying.

Every now and then you get a weirdo unicorn case, where a useful, Super Bowl caliber player is just sitting on the streets looking to sign with a team for pennies, like Donovan Smith. (For the record, I was a doubter about him too, so I'll eat my crow on this just like everybody else does sometimes.)

I just don't think we can count on Araiza to be a Donovan Smith level surprise.
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Old 04-12-2024, 11:22 AM   #5
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That's all fine and fair.

Nobody else brought him in (that we know of). That's all I'm saying.

Every now and then you get a weirdo unicorn case, where a useful, Super Bowl caliber player is just sitting on the streets looking to sign with a team for pennies, like Donovan Smith. (For the record, I was a doubter about him too, so I'll eat my crow on this just like everybody else does sometimes.)

I just don't think we can count on Araiza to be a Donovan Smith level surprise.
Imagine being this ****ing reeruned then getting your feelings hurt when people tell you you're reeruned.

He didn't just fall out of the sky. He was "sitting on the streets" for a reason, mongoloid.
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Old 04-11-2024, 02:28 PM   #6
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The last punt I saw him boot was three years ago. The Jets took a look at him and elected to go elsewhere.


I like Direckshun, i really do. Wish he'd post more, matter of fact. This shit makes me laugh. Its part of the reason i like him. I mean...i get it...i guess. But seriously tho....

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Old 04-11-2024, 05:13 PM   #7
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Until I know he's good at punting, I can't say he's good at punting.

The last punt I saw him boot was three years ago. The Jets took a look at him and elected to go elsewhere.
Do you think in the past two years that he went from being the greatest college punter / nfl prospect of all time, to not being able to be a top 32 punter, despite having zero injuries in that time?

Do you think Toub / Veach signed him and let Tommy walk without having him come try out so they could evaluate his current ability?

Do you think he’ll fail so spectacularly that we should use a draft pick on a punter instead of a UDFA, despite having the greatest quarterback of all time?
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Old 04-12-2024, 11:25 AM   #8
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Do you think in the past two years that he went from being the greatest college punter / nfl prospect of all time, to not being able to be a top 32 punter, despite having zero injuries in that time?

Do you think Toub / Veach signed him and let Tommy walk without having him come try out so they could evaluate his current ability?

Do you think he’ll fail so spectacularly that we should use a draft pick on a punter instead of a UDFA, despite having the greatest quarterback of all time?
I'm not certain he was the greatest prospect of all time, but he was certainly up there. I just know people who have gone through the turmoil he's gone through and expecting them to remain the same on the other side of it is not a good bet.

Maybe I'll be surprised though. My guess is that the Chiefs bring in a punter for competition. I wouldn't bet on a draft pick myself -- you guys make it sound like I'm betting on it -- but I would make a bet on competition.
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Old 04-11-2024, 06:33 PM   #9
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Until I know he's good at punting, I can't say he's good at punting.

The last punt I saw him boot was three years ago. The Jets took a look at him and elected to go elsewhere.
I doubt he forgot how to punt. You don't average over 50 yards per and just forget in a season. Plus he can be a reserve kicker. That's kinda handy.

As for punters, The Athletic reported on it last year before the draft. To quote it, from 1997-2022 only 51 punters were drafted, and of the 36 players that punted in 2022 only 18 were drafted.

Using a draft pick on a punter might be the dumbest use of draft capital on the planet. My 2 cents.
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I doubt he forgot how to punt. You don't average over 50 yards per and just forget in a season. Plus he can be a reserve kicker. That's kinda handy.

As for punters, The Athletic reported on it last year before the draft. To quote it, from 1997-2022 only 51 punters were drafted, and of the 36 players that punted in 2022 only 18 were drafted.

Using a draft pick on a punter might be the dumbest use of draft capital on the planet. My 2 cents.
51 punters is like a couple a year, isn't it? And if 18 were drafted, that does mean half the league.

It's not some blue moon event.

Your opinion at the end of your post is fair, I just personally disagree.
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Until I know he's good at punting, I can't say he's good at punting.

The last punt I saw him boot was three years ago. The Jets took a look at him and elected to go elsewhere.

The Jets are dumbfux and will finish last in their division again because Aaron ****ing Rogers isn't going to save a failure of a franchise.
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Old 04-15-2024, 01:51 PM   #14
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The Jets are dumbfux and will finish last in their division again because Aaron ****ing Rogers isn't going to save a failure of a franchise.
I disagree.
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Until I know he's good at punting, I can't say he's good at punting.

The last punt I saw him boot was three years ago. The Jets took a look at him and elected to go elsewhere.

You don’t know if Araiza is good at punting, but a random rookie we piss away a draft pick on will be?
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