***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[sedated]

Originally Posted by carlos3652

Not sure if anyone mentioned, but Argentina (where I am from) is on full lockdown - no school, curfew @ 8pm. They are getting vaccinated with the Russian vaccine. The president just got tested positive for Covid after he took it. Its a mess there.

JFC why would anyone (not under the rule of a dictator) take that Russian shit?

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by sedated

JFC why would anyone (not under the rule of a dictator) take that Russian shit?

Desperation??

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by O.city

We're getting out of this thing here in the US thankfully, but the rest of the world is getting rocked. India is just getting ran over.

I'm guessing we blow past the death toll from 2020 in 2021 by August. We need to surge vaccines into these other countries.

Yeah, saw headlines that India recorded over 200,000 cases in 24 hours and every one is saying thats an undercount.

Bad juju.

The first time around their mostly young population kept them from being too overwhelmed but doesn't look like that is the case with the variants this time around.

It seems India has stopped exporting vaccines, which makes sense but just means some other country is likely to be next.

[Stewie]

I considered buying Russian electronics, or cars, or a dishwasher. That didn't work, but it's their vaccine that works!

[carlos3652]

Originally Posted by sedated

JFC why would anyone (not under the rule of a dictator) take that Russian shit?

I’m assuming it had to do with the politics of it all but I won’t get into that here.

Also, I confirmed that my friend who got the blood clot in the brain did indeed get the JJ vax.

All my family members got M or P and no issues.

[O.city]

India is just getting hammered.

[O.city]

Canada is just getting wrecked too. India may potentially be having 6 million infections per day if the math is right (i'm skeptical).

Canada reporting that they're having younger people getting sicker and they're already rationing care.

US needs to surge vaccines elsewhere.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by O.city

Canada is just getting wrecked too. India may potentially be having 6 million infections per day if the math is right (i'm skeptical).

Canada reporting that they're having younger people getting sicker and they're already rationing care.

US needs to surge vaccines elsewhere.

We are still allowing international travel I take it? If we are they need to stop it asap

[KCUnited]

As far as flying, I believe you still need a proof negative test or proof of Covid recovery to board a flight into the US

Coming in by other means, not so much it appears

[O.city]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

We are still allowing international travel I take it? If we are they need to stop it asap

I don't know. I know our july Scotland trip got cancelled.

[Chief Roundup]

Had to cancel our trip to do climbing and hop mountain tops. My dad, who is 79, has tested positive for Covid and is now in the hospital in isolation.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

As far as flying, I believe you still need a proof negative test or proof of Covid recovery to board a flight into the US

Coming in by other means, not so much it appears

Looks like that is the case, have to have a negative covid test 3 days prior to boarding. That is really dumb they just need to shut it all down, no one in or out internationally.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by O.city

Canada is just getting wrecked too. India may potentially be having 6 million infections per day if the math is right (i'm skeptical).

Canada reporting that they're having younger people getting sicker and they're already rationing care.

US needs to surge vaccines elsewhere.

They are trying to send ICU patients from Toronto to North Bay which is about a 3.5 hour drive we don't have many big Hospitals and they are far apart so spreading the load is more difficult up here.

I might not get my second Pfizer dose till July , got my first one 3 weeks ago.



On a side note I had a Kansas City native as a patient today the Chiefs jacket and Royals t-shirt was a bit of a giveaway, wanted to chat her a up but it probably wasn't a good time .

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Looks like that is the case, have to have a negative covid test 3 days prior to boarding. That is really dumb they just need to shut it all down, no one in or out internationally.

That's a tough sell when 25% of the country is fully vaccinated.

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by Monticore

They are trying to send ICU patients from Toronto to North Bay which is about a 3.5 hour drive we don't have many big Hospitals and they are far apart so spreading the load is more difficult up here.

I might not get my second Pfizer dose till July , got my first one 3 weeks ago.



On a side note I had a Kansas City native as a patient today the Chiefs jacket and Royals t-shirt was a bit of a giveaway, wanted to chat her a up but it probably wasn't a good time .

I talked to someone I work with in Quebec and he got his first shot last week but the second one isn't until August 3.