Early 2021 Mock (3 rounds)

[Chargem]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Um, why?

It's probably irrational.

I just clicked few a few years of NFL drafts and checked for DE's drafted 25-32:

LJ Collier
Montez Sweat
Tak McKinley
Taco Charlton
Emmanuel Ogbah
Datone Jones

No one really leaps out at me as being worth a first round pick, and some of those guys were pretty much busts on their rookie deal? Like I said, its probably irrational. Its just a vague thought I have that its the positional value rather than the talent value pushing them up into the first round, if they had the talent value of a first rounder they normally go top 10?

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Chargem

It's probably irrational.

I just clicked few a few years of NFL drafts and checked for DE's drafted 25-32:

LJ Collier
Montez Sweat
Tak McKinley
Taco Charlton
Emmanuel Ogbah
Datone Jones

No one really leaps out at me as being worth a first round pick, and some of those guys were pretty much busts on their rookie deal? Like I said, its probably irrational. Its just a vague thought I have that its the positional value rather than the talent value pushing them up into the first round, if they had the talent value of a first rounder they normally go top 10?

Sweat is a pretty good player but only fell into that range because of some health concerns (heart).

It's a tough spot to grab a difference maker at high-value positions, because those guys generally go earlier.

I think Jaelan Phillips is my favorite DE prospect and he's likely available at the end of the second because of health concerns. He has huge upside, though.

[Chargem]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Sweat is a pretty good player but only fell into that range because of some health concerns (heart).

It's a tough spot to grab a difference maker at high-value positions, because those guys generally go earlier.

I think Jaelan Phillips is my favorite DE prospect and he's likely available at the end of the second because of health concerns. He has huge upside, though.

For these high value positions like DE, we have the same thought process I think, I would want to take a shot later on looking at upside (just to be clear, not taking a guy who just has stand out physical tools, like KPass...).

At least with Clark anchoring one end of the line, if you end up taking a guy who's a 3rd down pass rush specialist, I think you can live with that in Spags system as long as you don't pay a high price for that guy.

I am generally full of unpopular takes, but if the right talent is there this year I think I would be in favor of taking a difference making safety in the first, with the intention of playing a lot of 3 safety packages for 1 year then letting HB walk after next year.

I love HB, but I just don't think the Chiefs can afford to pay him if they are thinking dynasty.

[htismaqe]

Most of the guys you listed there ended up having injury issues.

If you could get a guy like Ogbah or Charlton that could actually stay healthy, that's a good pick.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Most of the guys you listed there ended up having injury issues.

If you could get a guy like Ogbah or Charlton that could actually stay healthy, that's a good pick.

Yeah and thats the type of guy you're gonna be getting at the end of the first.

You aren't finding your Khalil Macks that come in and are dominant immediately.

If you take a guy that ends up being say, Ogbah level, thats fine.