***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BigCatDaddy]

Man, I'm glad we were on top of stocking up on vaccines from the get go.

[PHOG]

The wife and I just got our 2nd Moderna shot today. No side effects so far except she has a little bit of a sore arm.

[carlos3652]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Had to cancel our trip to do climbing and hop mountain tops. My dad, who is 79, has tested positive for Covid and is now in the hospital in isolation.

Sorry about your dad CR

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Had to cancel our trip to do climbing and hop mountain tops. My dad, who is 79, has tested positive for Covid and is now in the hospital in isolation.

Good vibes headed your way. I'm very sorry to hear this. My dad, who is about the same age, struggled with it last year. It was terribly scary for a little while. He's better now aside from ruining out of energy very quickly.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Man, I'm glad we were on top of stocking up on vaccines from the get go.

Yup, I don't think it takes a medical expert to see that they have made a huge difference during this wave with these variants.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

That's a tough sell when 25% of the country is fully vaccinated.

My main concern is people coming here who aren’t vaccinated and bringing in these variants.

[AussieChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

I spent a lot of time the last 12 months WFH and didn't like it. Made me worry I can't handle retirement.

My company offered a permanent WFH option for all employees if they took a 10% pay cut. Which is of course completely laughable.

That is laughable. You'd have to pay me more to permanently work from home.

[Monticore]

You bastards.

U.S. the biggest source of COVID-19 brought into Canada, study finds

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...ehp&li=AAggNb9

I don't think you really needed a study for this when you have the amount of travel we have between our countries.

[Discuss Thrower]

> travel between countries

> MLB's / NBA's sole Canadian teams relocated to USA
> NHL realigned to accommodate an all-Canada division

???

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by PHOG

The wife and I just got our 2nd Moderna shot today. No side effects so far except she has a little bit of a sore arm.

How are you today?

My mom received her second Moderna yesterday and is ****ing miserable today. Chilled all night, can barely lift her arm, nausea, and a pounding headache. She expected it to be like the first injection with just a little soreness in her arm, but is damn glad she had today off.

[PHOG]

Originally Posted by ghak99

How are you today?

My mom received her second Moderna yesterday and is ****ing miserable today. Chilled all night, can barely lift her arm, nausea, and a pounding headache. She expected it to be like the first injection with just a little soreness in her arm, but is damn glad she had today off.

That pretty much describes the wife today, except her arm isn't quite that bad, but she has the chills, headache, and nausea. Ive got a nagging bump on my arm and a little headache, but nothing like hers.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by ghak99

How are you today?

My mom received her second Moderna yesterday and is ****ing miserable today. Chilled all night, can barely lift her arm, nausea, and a pounding headache. She expected it to be like the first injection with just a little soreness in her arm, but is damn glad she had today off.

I got my second Pfizer yesterday. I was doing pretty good for the first 24 hours and then I got hammered. Massive shivering and chills that won't go away even though I've got the room heat turned up to 74 and am under an electric blanket. I've got a mild headache and some notable fatigue, but the chills are the roughest part by far. I can't get warmed up. I may have to light a fire in my TV room or something.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I got my second Pfizer yesterday. I was doing pretty good for the first 24 hours and then I got hammered. Massive shivering and chills that won't go away even though I've got the room heat turned up to 74 and am under an electric blanket. I've got a mild headache and some notable fatigue, but the chills are the roughest part by far. I can't get warmed up. I may have to light a fire in my TV room or something.

I sucks but I don't think you are supposed to use heavy blankets/heat for chills I think it just raises your body temp.

•Drink lots of fluids and get plenty of rest.
•Sponge with lukewarm water.
•Take acetaminophen to fight fever and chills.
•Don't bundle up in blankets or use air conditioning

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I sucks but I don't think you are supposed to use heavy blankets/heat for chills I think it just raises your body temp.

•Drink lots of fluids and get plenty of rest.
•Sponge with lukewarm water.
•Take acetaminophen to fight fever and chills.
•Don't bundle up in blankets or use air conditioning

But it feels so good.

Oh, who am I kidding? It's making no difference. I'll try your way.

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I got my second Pfizer yesterday. I was doing pretty good for the first 24 hours and then I got hammered. Massive shivering and chills that won't go away even though I've got the room heat turned up to 74 and am under an electric blanket. I've got a mild headache and some notable fatigue, but the chills are the roughest part by far. I can't get warmed up. I may have to light a fire in my TV room or something.

There you go sending my decision right back to where it started.

Lucky for you, CP has a very experienced TV room heating fire lighter if you need assistance. Don't let his name scare you, In58men refers to his occupation, not his room heating abilities.