***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TLO]

FDA just authorized EUA for monoclonal antibodies.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Katipan

There's no vaccine for the taste of another man in your mouth.

I've looked.

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I would think that it would mostly taste like peppermint, cigarettes, and lost dreams.

Originally Posted by Katipan

Does it really matter? Suck 1 dick and you're labeled for life.

Originally Posted by Donger

Not if it's your own, or so I've been told.

I just want to point out my return to this thread had made it the best thread going right now.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I just want to point out my return to this thread had made it the best thread going right now.

If you haven't integrated the conversation with meat packing plants, you can't take any credit for anything.

[Chief Roundup]

Cases are continuing to rise in the schools here in Arkansas. There is now several schools that are shut down temporary, a few weeks, and 2 in the area of my home town that have closed the school all together and are doing only virtual learning until after the 1st of the year.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I just want to point out my return to this thread had made it the best thread going right now.

How are we doing on ventilators?

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Because herpes.

This board has probably reached herd immunity.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Cases are continuing to rise in the schools here in Arkansas. There is now several schools that are shut down temporary, a few weeks, and 2 in the area of my home town that have closed the school all together and are doing only virtual learning until after the 1st of the year.

We went thru that here early, but now back and not having much problems.

Schools just aren't superspreading events like everyone worried. It's imperative kids get back in schools.

[TLO]

Our hospitalizations are through the roof up here. We're starting to run out of space and staffing.

[Dunit35]

Originally Posted by O.city

We went thru that here early, but now back and not having much problems.

Schools just aren't superspreading events like everyone worried. It's imperative kids get back in schools.

Looks like we’re going virtual next week due to a backlog of cases they found on Saturday. 4500 cases which is more than double what we usually have. A backlog of cases but they refused to say how many of those are actually active.

Our schools have not been superspreaders since school started in August. It’s kind of shitty to force kids to go virtual for 350 active cases in a city of 50k+ with very few of those cases children. The positive cases for children must be low or our local news would be blowing up about it.

[O.city]

Even if you have cases in schools, the benefits of schools outweight the problems. It's a tradeoff.

Kids are just more important.

[Dunit35]

Originally Posted by TLO

Our hospitalizations are through the roof up here. We're starting to run out of space and staffing.

Why isn’t the media mentioning taking better care of yourself and immune system by eating better and exercising? I wish they’d spend at least a few minutes of a broadcast talking about it.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

Even if you have cases in schools, the benefits of schools outweight the problems. It's a tradeoff.

Kids are just more important.

100% agreed. Plus it's better to send your kid to school with the same bunch of people everyday than to shuffle them around among daycares and relatives, etc.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by petegz28

100% agreed. Plus it's better to send your kid to school with the same bunch of people everyday than to shuffle them around among daycares and relatives, etc.

It sucks and I'm glad I dont' have to make the decisions, but if we have to close bars and restaurants to keep schools open, well.....

Schools and kids are just too important.

[tooge]

Originally Posted by O.city

It sucks and I'm glad I dont' have to make the decisions, but if we have to close bars and restaurants to keep schools open, well.....

Schools and kids are just too important.

Totally agree. Isn't the death rate still lower than it was in the spring? If not then lock downs may be coming. If it is, then I don't get why all the fuss about cases rising

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by tooge

Totally agree. Isn't the death rate still lower than it was in the spring? If not then lock downs may be coming. If it is, then I don't get why all the fuss about cases rising

Hospitalizations will drive any local lock down discussions primarily IMHO.