***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Walmart put a mask mandate in place almost immediately and they enforced it, at least here.

The problem was that they didn't follow any of the other measures they put in place.

1. They said they wouldn't have more than 50 people in the store at a time. There was never LESS than 50 when I was there.

2. They went to one-way lanes but didn't have any way to enforce them.

3. They mandated 6 foot spacing but didn't enforce them.

4. They went from 24x7 to 8am to 8pm in order to "allow for restocking of shelves". In almost every case I saw where rules 1-3 above were being broken, it was EMPLOYEES doing it. It wasn't uncommon to have 5 or 6 associates clogging up a single aisle in the middle of the day, simultaneously violating every safety measure EXCEPT the mask mandate.

Maybe I'm getting old and grouchy but it seems like every time I leave the house now all I can see is idiocy. The average person is just ****ing stupid and doesn't have a grasp on basic logic and common sense.

Awesome post but can you imagine enforcing anything at Walmart?? It would make the riots look like a kids birthday party in comparison...

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Kman34

Awesome post but can you imagine enforcing anything at Walmart?? It would make the riots look like a kids birthday party in comparison...

They're handing out masks at the door to this day. If people aren't wearing one already, they get one handed to them.

I have yet to see any real resistance.

That being said, it's not even the customers. Walmart isn't even following their own rules when it comes to staffing.

[petegz28]

Coronavirus weakening? Viral loads carried by patients on the decline, along with death rate

https://www.studyfinds.org/coronavir...oad-declining/

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Coronavirus weakening? Viral loads carried by patients on the decline, along with death rate

https://www.studyfinds.org/coronavir...oad-declining/

Most viruses do weaken over time so that’s good news.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Coronavirus weakening? Viral loads carried by patients on the decline, along with death rate

https://www.studyfinds.org/coronavir...oad-declining/

Thanks. I've been hoping we'd start hearing lots of studies suggesting this.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Bowser

"Healthy person privilege"

Haha, Jesus. Please say that was a joke.

I was responding to his post calling out my privilege, dumbass. (in tribute to milkman)

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Most viruses do weaken over time so that’s good news.

Could also be masks and warmer weather contributing to lower viral loads.

[petegz28]

FYI, the average of daily new deaths in the KC area is down to its lowest level since late March....

[petegz28]

FYI, the Deaths to Cases rate in the KC area is now at its lowest levels since we started monitoring this Covid stuff.

[petegz28]

FYI, the 7 day average of Daily New Cases in the KC area is at its lowest rate since the end of June, beginning of July.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by petegz28

FYI, the Deaths to Cases rate in the KC area is now at its lowest levels since we started monitoring this Covid stuff.

Cases cases cases!!

[O.city]

At 125% capacity at the hospitals down here, sending people elsewhere now. Biggest majority coming from rural MO surrounding area.

But yeah cases don’t matter, they never lead to hospitalizations

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

At 125% capacity at the hospitals down here, sending people elsewhere now. Biggest majority coming from rural MO surrounding area.

But yeah cases don’t matter, they never lead to hospitalizations

We're 4 individuals away from having to convert one of our regular floors into a covid floor. No idea where our cases are coming from because our hospital likes to keep everything very hush hush.

Hopefully KC has room for some patients if we need them.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by O.city

At 125% capacity at the hospitals down here, sending people elsewhere now. Biggest majority coming from rural MO surrounding area.

But yeah cases don’t matter, they never lead to hospitalizations

Our 7 day average in cases and deaths is the highest it has been here in MO. A lot of people just don’t care anymore.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Could also be masks and warmer weather contributing to lower viral loads.

Not sure why people are down voting this. The team that completed the study said this in a press release.

"Rapid implementation of social distancing measures, lockdown and widespread use of facemasks may have contributed to a decrease in the exposure to the virus."