Better Call Saul

[rico]

As I am sure many of y'all already know, a spinoff of "Breaking Bad" titled "Better Call Saul" will be airing in 2014. This is going to be a prequel to Breaking Bad and will be based on the character of Saul Goodman from "Breaking Bad."

I, for one, will be watching. I'm sure the majority of all of you other "Breaking Bad" fans will be as well. Might as well get the discussion going sooner rather than later.

So... what are your hopes, expectations and/or concerns with the show? Here are some of mine:

Hopes: I hope to see Saul do his thing in the courtroom. I hope to see strong, unique supporting characters. I hope to see Breaking Bad foreshadowing. I hope he has an intriguing paralegal and/or assistant. I hope to see Breaking Bad characters such as Fring, Mike, etc...whoever. I hope the show kicks ass.

Expectations: I don't expect it to be as good as "Breaking Bad" (because nothing else is, really), but I expect it to be good since Vince Gilligan is writing. I somewhat expect it to have an even balance of comedy and drama...since Saul undeniably provides a substantial amount of comedic relief in "Breaking Bad." I expect to see "courtroom Saul." I expect the "Breaking Bad" references and character cameos to be less than what I hope. If it isn't even a fraction as good as "Breaking Bad," I expect it to be better than 95% of everything else on TV, since there is some shitty shit on TV these days.

Concerns: I'd be a liar if I were to say that I didn't think this show has potential of flopping and certainly failing to meet the presumed high expectations of the audience. Don't get me wrong, I think it will be good... but I think it COULD suck if not executed properly. My main concern is Saul ultimately proving himself to be a "little dab will do ya" type of character, which would lead to a show centered around his character not working out. I am hoping that the character of Saul will not be so over-used and constantly over the top, that he becomes annoying to me, thus ruining his character for me altogether... Not saying I think this will be how it goes down...just saying I think there is a CHANCE of this being the case, which prompts me to believe that a strong supporting cast is VITAL in terms of the amount of success/quality this show will accumulate. All in all, I don't think VG will steer us in an unfortunate direction though...I think they'll pull it off.

Thoughts?

DISCUS!!!!

[Baby Lee]

This going to drive me insane, and asking about it is going to expose flaws in my memory.

But I'm not going to watch all of both shows all over again to track it down.

But wasn't there another showdown at an isolated abandoned house in the desert that went sideways from a sniper? Or maybe the sniper just WATCHED it go sideways?

Or am I thinking of an altogether different cinematic universe.

I know the last 10 minutes reminded me strongly of something I've seen before.

[Demonpenz]

there was a sniper scene in BB where Jesse just stands up because he knows he can't be shot

[Demonpenz]

[Demonpenz]

well i mean gus did that

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

And a flower persevering there in the desert.

Lol, I dvr’ed it and got super pumped at the opening sequence. A worn out stuffed bunny makes its way downtown? Great callback to breaking bad.

Nope. It was just the ending of con air.

[DJay23]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

This going to drive me insane, and asking about it is going to expose flaws in my memory.

But I'm not going to watch all of both shows all over again to track it down.

But wasn't there another showdown at an isolated abandoned house in the desert that went sideways from a sniper? Or maybe the sniper just WATCHED it go sideways?

Or am I thinking of an altogether different cinematic universe.

I know the last 10 minutes reminded me strongly of something I've seen before.

In BCS maybe season 3 before Hector is incapacitated, Mike goes out to I believe this location with the intention of sniping him. Then his car horn is heard blasting and he returns to find the note "Don't"

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Breaking Bad is better, largely because the first 2-3 seasons of Saul are slow and boring as hell. It gets better pretty much in proportion to how much the BB characters are incorporated. I was so glad when the brother died. His stuff in the first couple of seasons were brutal. And all of the stuff with Kim and the banking...snore...

I realize they have to set up these characters and their transformations, but what took three seasons could have been done in one. Whole lot of fluff in the first seasons.

If anything throughout the series has been boring, it was the German subplot in season 4. Season 3 might be my favorite. The show's been consistently great.

Not sure how I feel about Nacho's little speech at the end of last night's episode though. I think that dialogue could have been better written.

[kjwood75nro]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

If anything throughout the series has been boring, it was the German subplot in season 4. Season 3 might be my favorite. The show's been consistently great.



Not sure how I feel about Nacho's little speech at the end of last night's episode though. I think that dialogue could have been better written.

I'm glad they did it, though.

It always seemed farfetched that a state-of-the-art meth lab could exist under an industrial laundromat without scrutiny.

And the resolution of that story arc worked well with Mike's character. Despite his ability to resolve problems violently and clean, he prefers the peaceful option until either the situation is untenable, or he's directly ordered.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by kjwood75nro

I'm glad they did it, though.

It always seemed farfetched that a state-of-the-art meth lab could exist under an industrial laundromat without scrutiny.

And the resolution of that story arc worked well with Mike's character. Despite his ability to resolve problems violently and clean, he prefers the peaceful option until either the situation is untenable, or he's directly ordered.

The ending of that arc reached a beautiful complicated conclusion where I’m really grateful they squeezed every last drop of juice out of it. It was also a rare Character in bb/bcs who was actually genuinely good so they really twisted the screws on this one. A lot of boring stuff but All worth it for the payoff

[staylor26]

Spoiler!

RIP Nacho

[BWillie]

My favorite character....

[KentuckyChief]

Originally Posted by Jenson71

Wasn't able to watch the premier on Monday, and don't have a DVR option. I think my only option is getting a re-run at 1am some night.

I had to get amc+, cause Hulu doesn’t carry amc. Is only $8 a month. Will drop after Saul ends.

[KentuckyChief]

Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois

The Kellerman's are hilarious

I know Betsy gained some weight but good lord I think she put most of those lbs in the right place.

[Jenson71]

Originally Posted by KentuckyChief

I had to get amc+, cause Hulu doesn’t carry amc. Is only $8 a month. Will drop after Saul ends.

I'm embarrassed to admit I hadn't thought of checking out AMC.com, which of course, the shows were available to watch as soon as you put your cable subscription in.

So, I'm caught up.

I can't remember why we're supposed to not like Howard Hamlin so much. I get some pranks, like the hookers at the restaurant, but did he really do anything so bad to deserve a potential malpractice lawsuit and the complete ruining of his reputation?

[Jenson71]

Originally Posted by KentuckyChief

I know Betsy gained some weight but good lord I think she put most of those lbs in the right place.

She's 100% not guilty.