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Old 09-22-2017, 06:55 PM  
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Reason #1 I'll miss John Dorsey: the 2015 draft
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Marcus Peters, CB, Washington (1st): Two years, two Pro Bowls.**

Mitch Morse, C, Missouri (2nd): Two-year starter.**

Chris Conley, WR, Georgia (3rd): Number of receptions jumped from 17 as rookie to 44 this season.**

Steven Nelson, CB, Oregon State (3rd): Worked way into starter in base defense.**

Ramik Wilson, LB, Georgia (4th): Importance increased with every game.**

D.J. Alexander, LB, Oregon State (5th): Special-teams coverage specialist.*

James O’Shaughnessy, TE, Illinois State (5th): Third tight end for offense that loves tight ends.*

Rakeem Nunez-Roches, DL, Southern Mississippi (6th): Terrific progress from first to second year.*

Da’Ron Brown, WR, Northern Illinois (7th): On practice squad last year
I simply cannot believe Clark couldn't find a way to work it out with John Dorsey.

Brett Veach has done well so far with what little he could do.

But he better be a damn ace in the hole. This is just insanely good.
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:03 PM   #2
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Up until the Chiefs took Mahomes, I think Marcus Peters was the most ecstatic I've ever been with a Chiefs 1st round draft pick. I got pretty rowdy for Glenn Dorsey and Eric Berry as well, but unless your GM blows a top 5 pick on a ****ing Tyson Jackson, it's hard to not be pleased with those picks.

Peters was a guy I had pegged as the best CB in that draft even above Xavier Rhodes (who was the favorite by just about every draftnik out there). I took him in the CP Mock. I compared him to Justin Houston as a guy that teams were going to let drop for a ridiculous and stupid reason.

Their ****ing loss. Our ****ing win. That one felt good as a fan but also felt good as a giant attention whore who got to say "I WAS RIGHT!"
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:05 PM   #3
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Is his head off the chopping block?
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:05 PM   #4
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Looks like 5 starters in one draft if Nelson is considered the starter over Mitchell.
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:28 PM   #5
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:31 PM   #6
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Great GM. He will be missed.

I can't think of one bad draft we have had since he was with us.
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:33 PM   #7
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Get back to me when we know it has actually hurt us to lose him and dont forget the shitty Hali, JC, and Howard contracts to boot.
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:38 PM   #8
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Get back to me when we know it has actually hurt us to lose him and dont forget the shitty Hali, JC, and Howard contracts to boot.
Eh, you're being a bit too harsh here IMO

Until Veach nails a draft or two, the rumors about Dorsey not being the primary architect remain just that... rumors

I really like Veach' style so far, but the man has much to prove to dispel the notion that we lost one helluva draft guru
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:42 PM   #9
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Eh, you're being a bit too harsh here IMO

Until Veach nails a draft or two, the rumors about Dorsey not being the primary architect remain just that... rumors

I really like Veach' style so far, but the man has much to prove to dispel the notion that we lost one helluva draft guru
We will see after Veachs first draft. At least Veach knows what a cap is
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:47 PM   #10
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We will see after Veachs first draft. At least Veach knows what a cap is
Right, I'm not arguing cap wizardry, strictly the eye for raw talent
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:54 PM   #11
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Looks like 5 starters in one draft if Nelson is considered the starter over Mitchell.
He is (in reference to Nelson)
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Old 09-22-2017, 08:02 PM   #12
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Dorsey had strengths and weaknesses like all GMs, he obviously nailed some draft picks... but by all accounts, Veach was the guy who identified the 3 studs in Philly, and Mahomes here... who knows who else he banged the table for that we just don't know about.

I think we'll be okay. I already love his aggressive approach with the trades.
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Get back to me when we know it has actually hurt us to lose him and dont forget the shitty Hali, JC, and Howard contracts to boot.
So Veach was the real talent guy behind the scenes? I bet you weren't saying that before Dorsey got fired? So who is the real talent guy for Veach? Just want to get it on the record in case he gets fired.

The Howard's contract wasn't bad, he got hurt and hasn't ever been the same. As for JC, all the fans wanted the Chiefs to extend him and now they are blaming Dorsey for it. The Hali contract was terrible and didn't make much sense.
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Up until the Chiefs took Mahomes, I think Marcus Peters was the most ecstatic I've ever been with a Chiefs 1st round draft pick. I got pretty rowdy for Glenn Dorsey and Eric Berry as well, but unless your GM blows a top 5 pick on a ****ing Tyson Jackson, it's hard to not be pleased with those picks.

Peters was a guy I had pegged as the best CB in that draft even above Xavier Rhodes (who was the favorite by just about every draftnik out there). I took him in the CP Mock. I compared him to Justin Houston as a guy that teams were going to let drop for a ridiculous and stupid reason.

Their ****ing loss. Our ****ing win. That one felt good as a fan but also felt good as a giant attention whore who got to say "I WAS RIGHT!"
Xavier Rhodes wasn't in that draft class.
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