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ShowtimeSBMVP · 01-23-2019, 09:33 AM

Former Giants’ DC and HC Steve Spagnuolo has emerged as the favorite to replace Bob Sutton as the Chiefs’ defensive coordinator, per sources.

Spagnuolo and Andy Reid worked together in Philadelphia, share the same agent and have a mutual respect for each other’s work.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 23, 2019

The #Chiefs are hiring Steve Spagnuolo as their new defensive coordinator, sources say. The former #Giants DC and interim HC/#Rams HC began his NFL coaching career as an #Eagles assistant under Andy Reid. Now rejoins Big Red in KC.
— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) January 24, 2019

**wazu** · 01-23-2019, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Context is everything here of which most of the time is forgotten.

Yes I'm sure he has plenty of excuses for his consistently horribly ranked defenses. Only context that really matters is he's a Reid crony.

O.city · 01-23-2019, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The Vikings defense got ****ing torched by good offenses this year...

And the Bears example is nothing more than they have elite talent, something we won't have with what this team is going to be.

I was gonna say that. The top defenses in the league are pretty well stacked with talent. It's tough to do that and it's tough to keep that year to year. Ideally, get in that 12-18 range year to year with this offense and you're looking at a 12-14 win team.

Will Spags (**** you guys i'm not typing that out every time) be able to do that? I dunno.

-King- · 01-23-2019, 11:05 AM

It's all about the players. Don Martindale, the Ravens defensive coordinator was a DC one time before this year. His teams ranking was 32nd. This year, it's #1.

Give spags talent and we'll be good. If we find get talent, we'll be shitty again. Simple

RunKC · 01-23-2019, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Bears
Ravens
Bills
Vikings

But yeah the list isn't long, I'd like a guy who has coached multiple teams to this level of numerous years.

Those teams are stocked full of talent everywhere on defense. Even Bob Sutton looked good in his first few years when we had talent.

So did Spagnoulo when he helped the Giants win the Super Bowl.

You need horses to do well in this league. Shit man, Sutton looked real ****ing good with our pass rush having 3 top tier rushers, but our secondary looked like ass bc nobody but Kendall Fuller deserved to be on the damn roster most of the season.

staylor26 · 01-23-2019, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

It's all about the players. Don Martindale, the Ravens defensive coordinator was a DC one time before this year. His teams ranking was 32nd. This year, it's #1.

Give spags talent and we'll be good. If we find get talent, we'll be shitty again. Simple

It really is that simple

BleedingRed · 01-23-2019, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

If you mean make it respectable? yes, I think so. Decent, middle of the pack-ish type defense? Yep.

Show a defense that transitioned from 3-4 to 4-3 and ranked middle of pack first year and I'll believe it.

Plenty of examples pointing the other direction.

Fritz88 · 01-23-2019, 11:06 AM

Not sure he’s going to do much.

BryanBusby · 01-23-2019, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

It's honestly pretty average.

Snacks Harrison, JPP, Hankins, Oliver Vernon

DRC and Jenkins before they fell off a cliff at corner

That's an above average Defense.

Compare that to what he'll have to work with in KC.

Speaks? - Jones - Nnadi - Kpass?

Awesome.

Sassy Squatch · 01-23-2019, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

I don't go off points, I'm going of yards all those teams held opponents to a average of 300 yards per game.

You win games by points, not by yards.

BleedingRed · 01-23-2019, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Those teams are stocked full of talent everywhere on defense. Even Bob Sutton looked good in his first few years when we had talent.

So did Spagnoulo when he helped the Giants win the Super Bowl.

You need horses to do well in this league. Shit man, Sutton looked real ****ing good with our pass rush having 3 top tier rushers, but our secondary looked like ass bc nobody but Kendall Fuller deserved to be on the damn roster most of the season.

That my main point, we are taking 2 of our top 3 pass rushers and adding question marks in a 4-3.

Chris Meck · 01-23-2019, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Show a defense that transitioned from 3-4 to 4-3 and ranked middle of pack first year and I'll believe it.

Plenty of examples pointing the other direction.

I would argue that part of our problem was that we were playing a 3-4 with mostly 4-3 personnel in the first place.

It's cool, man. Let's just see what shakes out. I think this is a solid but not earth shaking hire, and that's just not ever something that people get real excited about. It's often what wins, though.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-23-2019, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

It's all about the players. Don Martindale, the Ravens defensive coordinator was a DC one time before this year. His teams ranking was 32nd. This year, it's #1.

Give spags talent and we'll be good. If we find get talent, we'll be shitty again. Simple

Exactly...

At least we won’t be so predictable too regardless. It was embarrassing Sunday night to hear the announcers say that KCs defense was so easy to dissect pre snap. Not only that, but the players often looked lost and timid.

I’m ready to give anyone a chance and I think the 4-3 switch will be great given our current roster and the fact that most colleges use it.

**Donger** · 01-23-2019, 11:08 AM

Is it not clear that the Chiefs have made the determination that the defense is the issue? If so, is there any reason that we should not expect them to draft heavily on the defensive side this year and get more talent?

BleedingRed · 01-23-2019, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

You win games by points, not by yards.

Oh really?

So then by that measure we had the 24th best defense in the NFL.

Hammock Parties · 01-23-2019, 11:09 AM

We had the best pass rush in the league.

Spags has proven he can beat the Patriots with that kind of talent.

Seems a simple decision to me.

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