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Old 08-21-2023, 02:09 PM   #2
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Interesting bump. It seems like a lot of AI technologies (driverless cars, ChatGPT, etc.) are able to go from 0% awesome to 95% awesome pretty quickly, but that final 5% is super important yet difficult to achieve.

We've come a long way since this thread in terms of designing cars that can stay in their lanes and not hit anything in front of them, but things are still a little iffy in terms of being able to literally never have an active driver.

I still think we'll get there eventually, but it may still be a bit before we start removing steering wheels from cars.
Well, driverless cars carrying passengers are an actual thing in SF without a human driver ready to take over.



I guess you can argue they shouldn't be. Or it's not ready to be deployed by the millions.

I do think some of it will be legal and social. If the standard was just being demonstrably safer than humans it would be one thing, but the standard will be higher than that.

And than as the previously shown article pointed out, they still do occasionally have what might be loosely called common sense problems. Like the best way to navigate construction zones or getting out of the way of emergency vehicles in congested urban environments.
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Old 08-21-2023, 04:12 PM   #3
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Well, driverless cars carrying passengers are an actual thing in SF without a human driver ready to take over.



I guess you can argue they shouldn't be. Or it's not ready to be deployed by the millions.

I do think some of it will be legal and social. If the standard was just being demonstrably safer than humans it would be one thing, but the standard will be higher than that.

And than as the previously shown article pointed out, they still do occasionally have what might be loosely called common sense problems. Like the best way to navigate construction zones or getting out of the way of emergency vehicles in congested urban environments.
Did you read post 56 and the article about that very thing. It is current.
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Old 08-21-2023, 07:24 PM   #4
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Interesting bump. It seems like a lot of AI technologies (driverless cars, ChatGPT, etc.) are able to go from 0% awesome to 95% awesome pretty quickly, but that final 5% is super important yet difficult to achieve.

We've come a long way since this thread in terms of designing cars that can stay in their lanes and not hit anything in front of them, but things are still a little iffy in terms of being able to literally never have an active driver.

I still think we'll get there eventually, but it may still be a bit before we start removing steering wheels from cars.


Lol, I would never buy/ride in a car without human controls; steering wheel, brake/gas pedals. Not a chance in hell.
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Old 08-21-2023, 08:27 PM   #5
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Lol, I would never buy/ride in a car without human controls; steering wheel, brake/gas pedals. Not a chance in hell.
Would you ride in a plane being flown/landed on auto-pilot?
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Old 08-21-2023, 08:30 PM   #6
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Would you ride in a plane being flown/landed on auto-pilot?

Lol, never. Doesn't matter, as it's not even legal to do so in the US. It is legal in EUR, and of course they've already had a few fatal crashes using that technology. Geniouses that they are.



Would you ride in a commercial airplane that didn't have pilots? No cockpit either, so even if someone on the plane was a pilot, he couldn't go up and take the controls if something went wrong?
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Old 08-21-2023, 08:57 PM   #7
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Lol, never. Doesn't matter, as it's not even legal to do so in the US. It is legal in EUR, and of course they've already had a few fatal crashes using that technology. Geniouses that they are.



Would you ride in a commercial airplane that didn't have pilots? No cockpit either, so even if someone on the plane was a pilot, he couldn't go up and take the controls if something went wrong?
In bad weather, almost zero visibility, it doesn't matter much if there is a pilot or not.

Pilots give people warm fuzzy feelings and I'm sure there will be a couple in the cockpit trying to stay awake for a few more years as the plane essentially does everything for them.

Same thing with a lot of medical surgery in the not too distant future I would expect.
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Old 08-22-2023, 12:44 PM   #8
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Would you ride in a plane being flown/landed on auto-pilot?
Apples and oranges.
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Old 08-21-2023, 02:28 PM   #9
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Old 08-21-2023, 02:53 PM   #10
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On a positive note, I would assume that not a single driverless car has received a DUI.
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Old 08-22-2023, 12:42 PM   #11
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On a positive note, I would assume that not a single driverless car has received a DUI.
All joking aside, that is probably one of the main selling points on something like this. But I would argue that distractions such as cell phones present a much bigger danger.
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All joking aside, that is probably one of the main selling points on something like this. But I would argue that distractions such as cell phones present a much bigger danger.
Human error in general is the cause of 90%+ of car accidents.

Take the human out of the equation, and accidents go down substantially.
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Old 08-22-2023, 01:10 PM   #13
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Human error in general is the cause of 90%+ of car accidents.

Take the human out of the equation, and accidents go down substantially.
Oh, I know that. I regularly see articles of crashes around the state of Kansas. One thing that stands out is how often someone goes off the road and then overcorrects which in turn causes them to lose control and crash.

I'm open to driverless cars. I really like the idea when it comes to all the idiots on the road these days. Though for me personally, I will probably stick to driving myself for now.
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Old 08-22-2023, 06:25 AM   #14
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Old 08-22-2023, 07:12 AM   #15
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It's not a political issue, it's entirely financial. Big oil won't let it happen, not anytime soon. The politics is just theater, like nobody gives a shit about your gas stove Doris. I personally look at a movie like Minority Report and think that would be a perfect scenario to have. Not the eye scanning thing, but the fact that you could just get in a car and it get you to work safely, without traffic jams, stupid drivers, dealing with a busy gas station, and having to take long stops at traffic lights, I'd be down for it. You're never going to hit zero sum, and the process to get to that though is going to be rough.
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