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MahomesMagic · 09-24-2020, 12:41 PM

Lamar is a much better passer than some people think but at the same time he will never be a Mahomes, Rodgers, Wilson. Hell, Kyler Murray is a better thrower as well.

Lamar has great mobility and ball placement instinct. Eventually, the defense breaks and then he can wrist flick to a guy wide open on the move.

RunKC · 09-24-2020, 12:48 PM

Lamar reminds me of Michael Vick when he was with Andy. Harbaugh is doing what Andy did. Making a very structured offense with QB friendly reads.

It was very obvious last week.

Force him to play beyond that structure and make passes under pressure. That’s the key.

RaidersOftheCellar · 09-24-2020, 01:01 PM

In the last game, didn't Lamar throw up 2-3 absolute prayers that should've both been intercepted but somehow both fell into the receivers' hands? Ha. That game should have been a blowout.

Funny how Ravens fans only remember a couple dropped passes and count it as an "almost" win.

htismaqe · 09-24-2020, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

In the last game, didn't Lamar throw up 2-3 absolute prayers that should've both been intercepted but somehow both fell into the receivers' hands? Ha. That game should have been a blowout.

Funny how Ravens fans only remember a couple dropped passes and count it as an "almost" win.

One of them was caught. The other resulted in a DPI penalty because it hung in the air so long.

Megatron96 · 09-24-2020, 01:06 PM

Lamar is a great athlete. Probably the best athlete at the position, maybe ever.

But his weakness/inexperience/whatever you want to call it as a QB has been when he has to pass. i know he's been working on it, and last year he averaged fewer runs per game than in his first year. But the playoffs exposed that weakness yet again. He just wasn't nearly as effective when he was forced to throw vs. run and pass.

Now, I fully expect that he's better this year vs. last year as a passer. But from the little film I've seen he still isn't anywhere near Mahomes/Rodgers/Wilson levels as a passer. That's the weakness Andy and Spags have been exploiting and what they should be game-planning for this time around. Establish a two score lead and force Jackson to pass. Exploit that dinged up OL. Let Tyrann hunt.

**Tribal Warfare** · 09-24-2020, 01:14 PM

Besides Mike Pennel the player that will be the deciding factor for a Chiefs win is CEH.

Like Kareem in the MNF Bronco game Clyde's performance will be critical.

UChieffyBugger · 09-24-2020, 03:26 PM

Florio and Sims both picking the ravens, in the nfl preview video four out of six went for the Ravens plus the herd and skip are going birds. The pats always spoke about the world being against them..and i can't help but feel like folks are praying for a ravens win on monday. I love it though because it will make a victory taste so much sweeter.

DRM08 · 09-24-2020, 04:43 PM

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Florio and Sims both picking the ravens, in the nfl preview video four out of six went for the Ravens plus the herd and skip are going birds. The pats always spoke about the world being against them..and i can't help but feel like folks are praying for a ravens win on monday. I love it though because it will make a victory taste so much sweeter.

Chiefs looked pretty shaky against the Chargers, so it makes sense for most folks to pick the Ravens. KC will need to play a heck of a lot better than they did last Sunday. Maybe the underdog role is a good spot for them.

PAChiefsGuy · 09-24-2020, 04:52 PM

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Chiefs looked pretty shaky against the Chargers, so it makes sense for most folks to pick the Ravens. KC will need to play a heck of a lot better than they did last Sunday. Maybe the underdog role is a good spot for them.

I think by years end Chiefs will be better than the Ravens but right now I think Ravens are the better team. However you never know what can happen when Mahomes is there.

**Tribal Warfare** · 09-24-2020, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08

Chiefs looked pretty shaky against the Chargers, so it makes sense for most folks to pick the Ravens. KC will need to play a heck of a lot better than they did last Sunday. Maybe the underdog role is a good spot for them.

Mike Pennel is coming back and that will remedy the Chiefs run defense

Megatron96 · 09-24-2020, 05:16 PM

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Mike Pennel is coming back and that will remedy the Chiefs run defense

Honestly I think it's more about tackling, but Pennel being available will definitely help.

htismaqe · 09-24-2020, 05:17 PM

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Honestly I think it's more about tackling, but Pennel being available will definitely help.

Yep. Pennel isn't a cure all. Guys just need to focus, stay disciplined, and finish plays and they'll be okay.

OrtonsPiercedTaint · 09-24-2020, 06:15 PM

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MahomesMagic Generational Player MahomesMagic's Avatar Join Date: May 2017 Location: Honolulu	Lamar is a much better passer than some people think but at the same time he will never be a Mahomes, Rodgers, Wilson. Hell, Kyler Murray is a better thrower as well. Lamar has great mobility and ball placement instinct. Eventually, the defense breaks and then he can wrist flick to a guy wide open on the move.
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter RunKC's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2012	Lamar reminds me of Michael Vick when he was with Andy. Harbaugh is doing what Andy did. Making a very structured offense with QB friendly reads. It was very obvious last week. Force him to play beyond that structure and make passes under pressure. That’s the key.
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RaidersOftheCellar MVP RaidersOftheCellar's Avatar Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Lawrence, KS	In the last game, didn't Lamar throw up 2-3 absolute prayers that should've both been intercepted but somehow both fell into the receivers' hands? Ha. That game should have been a blowout. Funny how Ravens fans only remember a couple dropped passes and count it as an "almost" win.
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Megatron96 Suupraa Geniuuusss Megatron96's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Phoenix, AZ	Lamar is a great athlete. Probably the best athlete at the position, maybe ever. But his weakness/inexperience/whatever you want to call it as a QB has been when he has to pass. i know he's been working on it, and last year he averaged fewer runs per game than in his first year. But the playoffs exposed that weakness yet again. He just wasn't nearly as effective when he was forced to throw vs. run and pass. Now, I fully expect that he's better this year vs. last year as a passer. But from the little film I've seen he still isn't anywhere near Mahomes/Rodgers/Wilson levels as a passer. That's the weakness Andy and Spags have been exploiting and what they should be game-planning for this time around. Establish a two score lead and force Jackson to pass. Exploit that dinged up OL. Let Tyrann hunt.
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Tribal Warfare The Boom Boom Room Tribal Warfare's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension	Besides Mike Pennel the player that will be the deciding factor for a Chiefs win is CEH. Like Kareem in the MNF Bronco game Clyde's performance will be critical.
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