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Old 03-17-2024, 06:41 PM   #2
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Meh. I watched the Ravens game All 22 and Sneed/McDuffie locked him up easily. He is definitely not what he was. Not sure that athleticism is still there.

Definitely doesn’t scare defenses anymore. He was meh aside from 2 or 3 games.

I’d pass if he wants more than $3 million. He’s not appreciably better than Justin Watson at this point. He looks like what he is: a soon to be 32 year old coming off 2 major knee surgeries.
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Old 03-17-2024, 06:49 PM   #3
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Meh. I watched the Ravens game All 22 and Sneed/McDuffie locked him up easily. He is definitely not what he was. Not sure that athleticism is still there.

Definitely doesn’t scare defenses anymore. He was meh aside from 2 or 3 games.

I’d pass if he wants more than $3 million. He’s not appreciably better than Justin Watson at this point.

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Lol, wow, that's just a terrible analysis. In his sleep OBJ is a better WR than JWat. Put the pipe down, sheesh.
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Old 03-17-2024, 06:54 PM   #4
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Lol, wow, that's just a terrible analysis. In his sleep OBJ is a better WR than JWat. Put the pipe down, sheesh.
2014-2021 OBJ? Absolutely
2023 OBJ? Absolutely not

Do you guys watch these players or just keep their name from back when they were good? Again the guy is turning 32 and had 2 major knee surgeries. He isn’t anywhere near what he used to be.
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Old 03-17-2024, 06:59 PM   #5
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2014-2021 OBJ? Absolutely
2023 OBJ? Absolutely not

Do you guys watch these players or just keep their name from back when they were good? Again the guy is turning 32 and had 2 major knee surgeries. He isn’t anywhere near what he used to be.


lol, let's think about this:

Which WR can run a full route tree?
Which WR has a decent set of releases/release package?
Which WR knows how to create separation at the top of a route/at the catchpoint?
Which WR can make sight adjustments?
Which WR can read the defensive alignment pre-snap?
Which WR has better hands?
Which WR can track the ball better?

I'll give you a hint: there's only one answer to all the above questions.
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Old 03-17-2024, 07:03 PM   #6
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Lol, wow, that's just a terrible analysis. In his sleep OBJ is a better WR than JWat. Put the pipe down, sheesh.
Watson had a higher yards per catch than OBJ last year (17 vs 16.5) and just as many TDs (3).
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Old 03-17-2024, 07:07 PM   #7
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Watson had a higher yards per catch than OBJ last year (17 vs 16.5) and just as many TDs (3).
Watson was force fed targets because there were no good players around him.

Meaningless data.
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Old 03-17-2024, 07:13 PM   #8
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Watson was force fed targets because there were no good players around him.

Meaningless data.
I read your posts all over the boards and they all have the following things in common.

1. You never agree with anyone.
2. You always have to be right.
3. You can never see the other side of the coin.
4. In order to achieve 1 through 3 you spin the hell out of everything.

The mods should change you name to inertia.
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Old 03-17-2024, 07:13 PM   #9
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Watson had a higher yards per catch than OBJ last year (17 vs 16.5) and just as many TDs (3).


I like Justin; he's a good guy and occasionally he makes a great play. But he's a better ST player than he is a WR, and that's just a fact.

He shies from contact and often allows passes to go through his hands when going over the middle; go back and watch the DET game from last season where he lets two balls go through him, both of which were dead on the money and hit him in both hands. He also struggles in zone and doesn't make sight adjustments at all.


Meanwhile, we have OBJ:



Sorry, put up the wrong clip the first time. This is the right one.

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Old 03-17-2024, 07:24 PM   #10
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I like Justin; he's a good guy and occasionally he makes a great play. But he's a better ST player than he is a WR, and that's just a fact.

He shies from contact and often allows passes to go through his hands when going over the middle; go back and watch the DET game from last season where he lets two balls go through him, both of which were dead on the money and hit him in both hands. He also struggles in zone and doesn't make sight adjustments at all.


Meanwhile, we have OBJ:



Sorry, put up the wrong clip the first time. This is the right one.
I'll swap highlight videos with you, just for fun.

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Old 03-18-2024, 06:18 PM   #11
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Watson had a higher yards per catch than OBJ last year (17 vs 16.5) and just as many TDs (3).
Watson had Pat and OBJ had Lamar. OBJ would have had much higher numbers if he had Pat as his QB JUST for the sake he can actually consistently catch the ball.
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Old 03-18-2024, 06:22 PM   #12
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Watson had Pat and OBJ had Lamar. OBJ would have had much higher numbers if he had Pat as his QB JUST for the sake he can actually consistently catch the ball.
someone post OBJs separation stats on here, they were God awful. Not saying I'm against it on a skinny deal, but I don't think OBJ wants skinny, he already has a ring.
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Old 03-17-2024, 07:01 PM   #13
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Meh. I watched the Ravens game All 22 and Sneed/McDuffie locked him up easily. He is definitely not what he was. Not sure that athleticism is still there.

Definitely doesn’t scare defenses anymore. He was meh aside from 2 or 3 games.

I’d pass if he wants more than $3 million. He’s not appreciably better than Justin Watson at this point. He looks like what he is: a soon to be 32 year old coming off 2 major knee surgeries.
Seemed like he had some games last year where he was upset he wasn't getting the ball, even though the Ravens were absolutely crushing.

Unless he mentally accepts his limited role, that diva/me first attitude might cause some unnecessary drama.
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Old 03-17-2024, 07:14 PM   #14
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Meh. I watched the Ravens game All 22 and Sneed/McDuffie locked him up easily. He is definitely not what he was. Not sure that athleticism is still there.
Not going to judge a guy based on a matchup that literally not a single receiver all year did well against.
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Old 03-17-2024, 06:52 PM   #15
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