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10-10-2017, 05:53 PM | #3 |
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Preseason Kizer was not preseason Mahomes.
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10-10-2017, 08:34 PM | #4 |
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Chiefs Planet was treating Mahomes as our conquering hero when we used not just 1 first round pick but 2 first round picks on a first round QB for the first time in 34 years. When Mahomes exceeded expectations in training camp and preseason, Chiefs Planet was debating which game Mahomes would replace Smith as the starting QB. Then Smith plays his best ball in KC over the first 5 games of the season and now Mahomes isn't good enough to start until his 4th season. Chiefs Planet defines schizoqhrenia.
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10-10-2017, 08:52 PM | #5 | |
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You still have the QB1 club who can't wait for Smith to be gone regardless of how well he is playing. I mean, during the Chargers (or Eagles) game you had people posting "stay the **** down" when Smith got knocked to the ground. |
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10-10-2017, 09:20 PM | #6 | |
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There exist a small contingent here who will back every single move the Chiefs make without ANY thought of reason, foresight, or hindsight. Everyday is a fresh new day! Every new season a chance to be champs! Franchise history, NFL history, and data compiled over decades mean absolutely nothing to these folks, and many of them are a prime reason that morons like Peterson and Peeholi long overstayed their welcome. These fools welcomed Smith with open arms, minds, hearts, and wallets, and were just ghastly taken aback when a fan base that had grown weary, leery, and technologically football-savvy did NOT see the "wisdom" of such a move. Prior to this, these poor, mistreated souls had undergone a severe e-beating in the form of almost a decades worth of advocation for the acquisition of a 1st round QB, in hopes of breaking KC's cycle of mediocre insanity. And we of the QB1 Death Cult spared NO rod on these deserved fools. We beat their asses up, down, and all around the internet until finally, only a few hardcore gluttons for punishment remained. It took a long goddamned time to make a larger majority of the Chiefs fan base both at CP and in the "real world" understand that NO retread QB was EVER going to take the Chiefs to a Super Bowl, much less win the ****ing thing. The Chiefs themselves finally understood this, and did what needed to be done. The future is secure, and the Chiefs stand on the cusp of fielding what could be an elite unit led by a young, elite QB. But don't let that get in the way of some good, old fashioned butthurt. The losers of this war, having already lost but being too ****ing stupid to realize it much less admit it, have unfurled their Epic Vagina Flag one last time, and attached it to the aged ass of Alex Peckerwhacker Smith. He is their Golden Hope, their last chance at attaching ANY validation to an already proven failure of a team-building philosophy. A philosophy that their beloved franchise has already abandoned. It is unfortunate that yet another season must be wasted upon an idea whose time has come and gone, but I am more than confident that the final outcome will be well worth it. There won't even be ashes left to blow in the wind. |
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10-11-2017, 09:54 AM | #7 |
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Andy sold in Mcnabb high.
If alex plays at this level all year, that's the highest it's gonna get value wise. What are the chances he does it again next year, a year older? |
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10-11-2017, 10:04 AM | #8 |
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10-11-2017, 03:47 PM | #9 |
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If they do keep him, here'd be my plan...
Sign: Beau Allen, NT (PHI) (reference A. Woods, D. Square) 2 years, $4 million, $1.5 million signing bonus ~ $1.5 million 2018 Re-Sign: Anthony Sherman, FB (reference P. DiMarco) 4 years, $8.5 million, $2 million signing bonus ~ $2 million 2018 Tyler Bray, QB (reference R. Griffen, K. Clemens, B. Weeden, C. Daniel, etc) 2 years, $2.4 million ~ $1.2 million 2018 Rakeem Nunez-Roches, DL RFA Tender Original Round ~ $1.8 million 2018 Terrance Mitchell, CB (reference B. Carr, J. Lane, M. Cooper, C. Hayward, etc) 4 years, $22 million, $6 million signing bonus, $8 million guaranteed. ~ $3.8 million 2018 Terrance Smith, ILB ERFA Tender ~$630k 2018 Kevin Pierre-Louis, ILB 1 year, vet minimum $790k Phillip Gaines, CB 1 year, vet minimum $790k Estimated 2018 Net Increase Against Cap: $12.5 million Total Cap Space needed: $12.5 + $5 million buffer + $3 million draft = $20.5 million Let walk: LB R. Wilson (RFA) WR D. Thomas WR A. Wilson DB S. Terrell DB K. Acker DL J. Jenkins DL R. Miller OL J. Devey OL Z. Fulton SP D. Colquitt Other Transactions: Retire/Release Derrick Johnson, ILB ($8 million cap space) Retire/Release Tamba Hali, OLB ($7 million cap space) Release Demetrius Harris ($2 million cap space) Convert $6 million of Justin Houston's 2018 salary into a signing bonus (gains $4 million cap space 2018) Total Cap Space Gained: $21 million Roster: QB: A. Smith, P. Mahomes, T. Bray RB: K. Hunt, S. Ware, C. West FB: A. Sherman TE: T. Kelce, R. Travis, ? WR: T. Hill, C. Conley, J. Chesson, D. Robinson, M. Kemp?, G. Deiter? OL: E. Fisher, P. Ehinger, M. Morse, L. Duvernay-Tardif, M. Schwartz, B. Witzman, C. Erving, ?, ? DL: R. Nunez-Roches, C. Jones, A. Bailey, T. Kpassagnon, B. Allen OLB: J. Houston, D. Ford, D. Nicolas, F. Zombo, ? ILB: U. Eligwe, R. Ragland, T. Smith, K. Pierre-Louis, ? CB: M. Peters, T. Mitchell, S. Nelson, D. White, P. Gaines, A. Lampkin DB: E. Berry, R. Parker, D. Sorensen, E. Murray ST: H. Butker, J. Winchester, ? Leaves you some holes at TE, OL, OLB, ILB, and P and maybe WR. You could probably fill 2 of those with cheap vet free agents (esp WR, TE or OL) at the minimum and still have a little buffer for the season, and I don't think the draft will cost the $3 million I have allocated (net cap effect, not total money). You could sign Kemp and Deiter to the 53 for next year and only cost you 960k, so that's a big area to keep the savings IMO. |
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10-12-2017, 04:29 PM | #10 |
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I love Alex. He is the reason I am a Chiefs fan. I am from Utah and went to most of his college games. I felt he was done dirty by Harbaugh and I couldn't support the 49ers after they cut him during his best season off the heels of an NFCCG. With that said... it only makes sense to trade him after this year. With the season he is having he is guaranteed to bring a first round draft pick and some role players in any package someone puts together for him. His hit to the cap next season is $20m and to get the most out of Mahomes rookie deal we would need to cut him loose. It sucks but thats the reality of this situation. Alex is worth far more to another team and conversely the Chiefs by being traded. Let's all enjoy this year of him though and hope we get our SB.
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10-12-2017, 10:45 PM | #11 | |
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10-13-2017, 04:23 PM | #12 |
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If we go all the way and win it, Smith definitely deserves a shot at coming back to defend the title
Anything less than that, and it only makes sense to move on... Alex isnt getting any younger, and we'd be wasting 2 years of Pats 'cheap' rookie deal |
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10-12-2017, 09:08 PM | #13 |
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10-13-2017, 07:41 PM | #14 |
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If Alex gets us to the SB it's because he's playing like he currently is. Right now he's playing like Rodgers.
You don't just trade that off. |
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10-16-2017, 10:00 AM | #15 |
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