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Old 04-17-2024, 01:18 PM  
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The Chiefs got lucky to win Super Bowls
Get out your pitchforks boys, you ain't gonna like this. It's actually good arguments. We probably got lucky last year, unlucky in the losses to Brady because that mother****er is the luckiest person alive.

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Old 04-17-2024, 01:49 PM   #31
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The Faketriots entire dynasty was based on luck… and cheating.
Nah they were good. You don't accomplish what they did just based on what you claim especially when you consider they lost a key piece in Hernandez due to his incarceration.

Regardless, hopefully they Chiefs can match their accomplishments in time wout all the controversies.
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Old 04-17-2024, 01:56 PM   #32
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Nah they were good. You don't accomplish what they did just based on what you claim especially when you consider they lost a key piece in Hernandez due to his incarceration.

Regardless, hopefully they Chiefs can match their accomplishments in time wout all the controversies.
Tuck rule play?

Almost all of their Super Bowl wins were by one score/close games?

The bullshit Chris Jones roughing the passer call and the Dee Ford offsides call that got them to their final Super Bowl?

All luck.
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Old 04-17-2024, 02:01 PM   #33
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Congratulations on discovering that there is some luck involved in winning championships.
I refer to it as "good fortune"...where preparation meets opportunity, then has beers with Patrick Mahomes
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Old 04-17-2024, 02:13 PM   #34
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While there is certainly some luck involved whenever any team wins multiple championships, I'm pretty sure having a HOF Head Coach, QB, TE and DT helps slightly. I mean, just somewhat, but it probably was mostly luck.

God, I hate everyone.
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Old 04-17-2024, 02:15 PM   #35
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is it luck to win at poker?
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Old 04-17-2024, 02:17 PM   #36
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And, more specifically, we seem to be great at striking when we see an opening. How many times has there been a key turnover, and we immediately score in the next couple of plays? That kind of stuff turns games.
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Old 04-17-2024, 02:19 PM   #37
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That's the way the ball bounces... is a saying for a reason. Though, most teams attitudes and preparedness create much of the "luck"...
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Old 04-17-2024, 02:21 PM   #38
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Tuck rule play?

Almost all of their Super Bowl wins were by one score/close games?

The bullshit Chris Jones roughing the passer call and the Dee Ford offsides call that got them to their final Super Bowl?

All luck.
It's a game of inches. This is nothing new.

It also goes both ways. They easily could have more if it wasn't for a few handful plays.
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Old 04-17-2024, 02:28 PM   #39
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is it luck to win at poker?
For instance, if you come in first place in an elimination tournament that started with 100 players, that usually takes skill and luck.

Just coming out ahead most nights, night after night in ten person cash game, skill.
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Old 04-17-2024, 02:32 PM   #40
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is it luck to win at poker?
A hand? Yeah.

A tournament? Nah - when I used to play a lot I knew when I was playing well and when I was irritated or chasing or just not focused and playing poorly.

If you're getting cold-decked it's not 'luck' to play in such a way that allows you to ride out your cold spell and then take advantage of it when you start getting better cards. Or to know when to lean on guys when THEY'RE clearly chasing.

There's plenty of skill involved in poker.
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Old 04-17-2024, 02:40 PM   #41
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is it luck to win at poker?
Over a course of one day, one tournament, or one cash session? Yes. That's the #1 reason you win or lose.
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Old 04-17-2024, 02:41 PM   #42
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I can acquit some of what you said to football as well
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My takeaway with his findings of our good fortune last year is we can't just sit on our hands and assume we will win again with the same team. Our defense is going to be there. But we need to heavily invest into the offense and especially at WR, LT and find another TE.
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My takeaway with his findings of our good fortune last year is we can't just sit on our hands and assume we will win again with the same team. Our defense is going to be there. But we need to heavily invest into the offense and especially at WR, LT and find another TE.
They already signed Hollywood and have set themsevles up to draft offense heavily after bringing back everybody but Sneed on D.

The plan was never to run it back with the same offense.
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Old 04-17-2024, 02:45 PM   #45
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A hand? Yeah.

A tournament? Nah - when I used to play a lot I knew when I was playing well and when I was irritated or chasing or just not focused and playing poorly.

If you're getting cold-decked it's not 'luck' to play in such a way that allows you to ride out your cold spell and then take advantage of it when you start getting better cards. Or to know when to lean on guys when THEY'RE clearly chasing.

There's plenty of skill involved in poker.
I would say there is much more luck involved in poker than you even are giving credit for. In one tournament, I'd rather be one of the worst players in the field and be one of the luckiest and it isn't even close. You can be absolutely awful and win a poker tournament.

When I play online in cash games I win only 53 or 54% of the time in a given cash session. In live cash where the games are much much easier I win about 62% of the time. In one day, one game, luck is the biggest factor of my success.

Over an entire year luck STILL a factor, just not the biggest factor. And in football you are only playing 17 + playoff games so there is that much more of a luck factor than some other sports or games.
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