***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, I'm with you. I don't smoke anything and never have. I tried mj a few times in high school but it never did a thing so I never tried it again.

I quit drinking alcohol almost 20 months ago and switched to edibles, which for me, are freaking awesome. I haven't missed drinking one bit but after drinking one THC Lagunitas beer in February, I ended up drinking three because the tasted so good.

And then, I got a major, MAJOR buzz. Something about the THC in liquid form hit me right away, whereas edibles can take anywhere from 45 minutes to 2 hours for me to feel the effect.

I'd highly recommend the beer, no pun intended.

Edibles are great hangover cures too!

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Let's see...

I love Lagunitas' offerings.

Don't like to smoke, but interested in the effects.

????

Profit.



Sounds like a roadtrip is in order when all this calms down. Then again, it's likely my trip to SoCal in early March is where I got infected.

Great for beer runs... Bottle Logic, Smog City, Modern Times.

I’d say those are to die for, but maybe not the place or time....

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Great for beer runs... Bottle Logic, Smog City, Modern Times.

I’d say those are to die for, but maybe not the place or time....

I see what you did there...

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Unless something changes drastically, I can't see the governor of California allowing 70,000 people to attend 49er and Rams football games this Fall.

No one attends the Chargers games so that won't even be an issue.

He seems to act like the nfl owners know something the public doesn’t?

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Unless something changes drastically, I can't see the governor of California allowing 70,000 people to attend 49er and Rams football games this Fall.

No one attends the Chargers games so that won't even be an issue.

You've got that right.

[Three7s]

Looks like the new cases in New York dropped significantly today from the last time I looked. That's a good sign.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by O.city

He seems to act like the nfl owners know something the public doesn’t?

Or, the owners believe that the NFL is just so important that the rules don't apply to them.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by O.city

He seems to act like the nfl owners know something the public doesn’t?

Considering some of them have met with the president

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

It's amazing how badly you struggle with reading

Says the guy responding with generic statements without anything to back them up to me pointing out multiple instances of you failing to understand what you read using your own posts. It’s not to late to learn something here. The lesson being don’t invent others positions and then criticize them for said made up positions. This isn’t hard.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Says the guy responding with generic statements without anything to back them up to me pointing out multiple instances of you failing to understand what you read using your own posts. It’s not to late to learn something here. The lesson being don’t invent others positions and then criticize them for said made up positions. This isn’t hard.

Jesus it's like talking to a wall....

This is the last time I'm going to address your fake account Peter. I've shared several of your posts which clearly demonstrated you had no idea what you were talking about. Just 2 days ago you called Mayor Lucas's 10/10/10 plan a business killer. That plan is literally a compromise between opening everything and keep everything closed.

Again reading seems to be extremely difficult for you.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Or, the owners believe that the NFL is just so important that the rules don't apply to them.

This is the most likely.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

This is the most likely.

How are you doing , you back to normal yet?

[displacedinMN]

40k at a chargers game.

10k charger fans. 30k visitors.

30k empty seats

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Says the guy responding with generic statements without anything to back them up to me pointing out multiple instances of you failing to understand what you read using your own posts. It’s not to late to learn something here. The lesson being don’t invent others positions and then criticize them for said made up positions. This isn’t hard.

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Jesus it's like talking to a wall....

This is the last time I'm going to address your fake account Peter. I've shared several of your posts which clearly demonstrated you had no idea what you were talking about. Just 2 days ago you called Mayor Lucas's 10/10/10 plan a business killer. That plan is literally a compromise between opening everything and keep everything closed.

Again reading seems to be extremely difficult for you.

he really just accused you of being an alt.....holy **** that's some funny shit!

[Titty Meat]

Deadliest day yet in America:

https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1256...797675009?s=19