***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by tk13

I wouldn't be shocked if it was here earlier and nobody knew about it, Washington State said as much. If it was super widespread though we would have seen evidence of it though, like the places where it's gotten bad, or the pork plant in SD where a bunch of people got sick.

This scientist was one of the first people here in the US that started warning people early in January about human to human transmission so he knows his stuff.

There is a lot of Twitter chatter surrounding a rumor that circulation of #COVID19 in California in fall 2019 has resulted in herd immunity. This is empirically not the case. COVID-19 was first introduced into the USA in Jan/Feb 2020. 1/18

— Trevor Bedford (@trvrb) ?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 12, 2020




For (1), the @seattleflustudy has gone back and tested retrospective samples collected between Jan 1 and March 10 in our research assay. These samples were collected as part of our study of respiratory infections in the Seattle area. 3/18

— Trevor Bedford (@trvrb) April 12, 2020

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Donger

Is that inclusive of the federal tax?

Nah, just California state tax

[Donger]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Nah, just California state tax

You guys must have really pretty roads.

[TLO]

Yeah I don't really buy into the whole idea of it being here last fall/early winter. Hospitals would have been overwhelmed in places, especially if it's as easily transmitted as advertised.

It doesn't make any sense.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Currently it's 57.8 cents a gallon

I thought we were bad at 32.3 cents a gallon. We don't have a sales tax, but they hammer us on gas tax and property tax.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

So Europe seems to be having a really shitty time with this compared to US.

?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Donger

You guys must have really pretty roads.

If they're not the worst in the country, I'd be shocked

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

So Europe seems to be having a really shitty time with this compared to US.

Why do you say that?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If they're not the worst in the country, I'd be shocked

In my limited Southern California experience, Illinois is way worse.

[Donger]

The bump in coronavirus cases is most pronounced in states without stay at home orders. Oklahoma saw a 53% increase in cases over the past week, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. Over same time, cases jumped 60% in Arkansas, 74% in Nebraska, and 82% in Iowa. South Dakota saw a whopping 205% spike.

The remaining states, North Dakota, Utah and Wyoming each saw an increase in cases, but more in line with other places that have stay-at-home orders. And all of those numbers may very well undercount the total cases, given a persistent lack of testing across the US.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

In my limited Southern California experience, Illinois is way worse.

The biggest problem here is the neighborhoods and hillside areas, who pay the highest amount of property tax, have to deal with narrow roads, random potholes and no sidewalks.

I can't even take my children on a walk in our neighborhood and now that Lake Hollywood is closed due to the virus, it's next to impossible for them to burn off energy outside of our home.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Donger

The bump in coronavirus cases is most pronounced in states without stay at home orders. Oklahoma saw a 53% increase in cases over the past week, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. Over same time, cases jumped 60% in Arkansas, 74% in Nebraska, and 82% in Iowa. South Dakota saw a whopping 205% spike.

The remaining states, North Dakota, Utah and Wyoming each saw an increase in cases, but more in line with other places that have stay-at-home orders. And all of those numbers may very well undercount the total cases, given a persistent lack of testing across the US.

Didn't South Dakota's spike come mainly from that pork plant? I think I remember reading something about that.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by TLO

Didn't South Dakota's spike come mainly from that pork plant? I think I remember reading something about that.

Yes.

[notorious]

Just curious, what the total ban count is for this thread?

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Bwana

I thought we were bad at 32.3 cents a gallon. We don't have a sales tax, but they hammer us on gas tax and property tax.

gas price is 89 cents a litre up here (x3.7 I think for gallon) not sure on the taxes , but it is probably a lot .