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Old 03-02-2020, 02:25 PM   #2
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Yes it is. Does somebody win? Is there competition? Are the results in the Sports section. Team PENSKE?
Monopoly is a sport
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Old 03-02-2020, 02:35 PM   #3
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I think I won letters in math and band in high school. I chose not to purchase a letter jacket for them, though.
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Old 03-01-2020, 04:30 PM   #4
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Racing is not a sport.



Disclaimer-Not like I care-but this was a common theme on a sports call in show over 20 years ago. Just thought I would throw it out there.
Can we add drivers are not athletes?
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Old 03-01-2020, 04:34 PM   #5
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Can we add drivers are not athletes?
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Old 03-01-2020, 04:47 PM   #6
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Racing is not a sport.



Disclaimer-Not like I care-but this was a common theme on a sports call in show over 20 years ago. Just thought I would throw it out there.
Depends upon the level. If you watch any Formula 1, those guys have to be in incredible shape to withstand the G forces on their body and to operate the vehicles. With no power-assisted anything, I understand it takes about 80 lbs pressure to operate the brakes on those cars. The reaction times necessary are inhuman. My understanding is that the 2 hardest things in sports, or competitions if you prefer, are hitting a baseball and operating a formula 1 car at full speed.
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Old 03-01-2020, 04:50 PM   #7
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Depends upon the level. If you watch any Formula 1, those guys have to be in incredible shape to withstand the G forces on their body and to operate the vehicles. With no power-assisted anything, I understand it takes about 80 lbs pressure to operate the brakes on those cars. The reaction times necessary are inhuman. My understanding is that the 2 hardest things in sports, or competitions if you prefer, are hitting a baseball and operating a formula 1 car at full speed.
Maybe before they went to the paddle shifter on the steering wheel.
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Old 03-01-2020, 05:04 PM   #8
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Maybe before they went to the paddle shifter on the steering wheel.
The paddle shifter merely sped up matters, enabling them to drive even faster. They still have no power steering, nor do they have power brakes. At speeds of 240+, they require reaction times that most people simply do not have. One unique aspect to F1 is their neck strength. The G-forces are so strong that the drivers have to strengthen their neck to keep their head straight in turns.

I view sports as requiring competition and athletic ability. The ability to process data that quickly and react is an athletic ability, as seen in hitting a baseball, passing a puck or scoring a basket. I know that there are fewer than 100 people in the world who could adequately drive and race a formula 1 car. Knowing the physical requirements and demands of the race, I have no problem calling racing a sport. Certainly if luge can be a sport at Winter Olympics, car racing can be a sport.
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Old 03-01-2020, 05:22 PM   #9
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The paddle shifter merely sped up matters, enabling them to drive even faster. They still have no power steering, nor do they have power brakes. At speeds of 240+, they require reaction times that most people simply do not have. One unique aspect to F1 is their neck strength. The G-forces are so strong that the drivers have to strengthen their neck to keep their head straight in turns.

I view sports as requiring competition and athletic ability. The ability to process data that quickly and react is an athletic ability, as seen in hitting a baseball, passing a puck or scoring a basket. I know that there are fewer than 100 people in the world who could adequately drive and race a formula 1 car. Knowing the physical requirements and demands of the race, I have no problem calling racing a sport. Certainly if luge can be a sport at Winter Olympics, car racing can be a sport.
And a quick add- the mental and physical endurance you have to have is phenomenal
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Old 03-01-2020, 05:26 PM   #10
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The paddle shifter merely sped up matters, enabling them to drive even faster. They still have no power steering, nor do they have power brakes. At speeds of 240+, they require reaction times that most people simply do not have. One unique aspect to F1 is their neck strength. The G-forces are so strong that the drivers have to strengthen their neck to keep their head straight in turns.

I view sports as requiring competition and athletic ability. The ability to process data that quickly and react is an athletic ability, as seen in hitting a baseball, passing a puck or scoring a basket. I know that there are fewer than 100 people in the world who could adequately drive and race a formula 1 car. Knowing the physical requirements and demands of the race, I have no problem calling racing a sport. Certainly if luge can be a sport at Winter Olympics, car racing can be a sport.
240 M.P.H.? On what track/course? The F1 engines still sound like crap. Two things F1 needs to bring back. 1. Refueling 2. the ear splitting sound of the V-12's of the early 90's!!!

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Old 03-01-2020, 05:27 PM   #11
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Depends upon the level. If you watch any Formula 1, those guys have to be in incredible shape to withstand the G forces on their body and to operate the vehicles. With no power-assisted anything, I understand it takes about 80 lbs pressure to operate the brakes on those cars. The reaction times necessary are inhuman. My understanding is that the 2 hardest things in sports, or competitions if you prefer, are hitting a baseball and operating a formula 1 car at full speed.
Car racing is a lot like horse racing.

I mean, is it the horse or the jockey?

Is it the car or the driver?

It’s some sort of weird combination of both.
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Old 03-01-2020, 05:32 PM   #12
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Car racing is a lot like horse racing.

I mean, is it the horse or the jockey?

Is it the car or the driver?

It’s some sort of weird combination of both.
horses don't make pit stops during races
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Old 03-01-2020, 04:45 PM   #13
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Old 03-01-2020, 04:52 PM   #14
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I’ll give a widely unpopular opinion today: in the nature/nurture battle, nature has clearly won.

We are seeing so many issues - conduct, intelligence, health, morality, personal philosophy - are largely genetic. It may be that genes do not so much ‘cause’ as provide an extreme impetus in certain directions, but however you slice it, the more we study genetics, the more it is clear that nature has won the debate. Compared to Nature, Nurture contributes little to who we are and what we do.
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Old 03-01-2020, 04:55 PM   #15
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I’ll give a widely unpopular opinion today: in the nature/nurture battle, nature has clearly won.

We are seeing so many issues - conduct, intelligence, health, morality, personal philosophy - are largely genetic. It may be that genes do not so much ‘cause’ as provide an extreme impetus in certain directions, but however you slice it, the more we study genetics, the more it is clear that nature has won the debate. Compared to Nature, Nurture contributes little to who we are and what we do.
You could say that F1 "Nurtured" the paddle shifter
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