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Old 01-27-2019, 12:42 PM   #2
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Disagree. Williams done well no doubt, but he's still not as good as Kareem Hunt and that's why the Pats were able to be successful in the first half because they didn't respect our run game at all. Getting a stud rb should be a priority imo and i'm hopeful that they already know who like and their targets weren't at the senior bowl.
The dude had 3 TD's last Sunday, and would have had 4 without the overthrow.
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Old 01-27-2019, 03:54 PM   #3
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The dude had 3 TD's last Sunday, and would have had 4 without the overthrow.

yeah i don't get the Damien Williams overlook.
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Old 01-27-2019, 04:38 PM   #4
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The dude had 3 TD's last Sunday, and would have had 4 without the overthrow.
He was schemed open imo. We need a dominant rb to really enhance this O and keep it at a high level I think.
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Old 01-27-2019, 08:26 PM   #5
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He was schemed open imo. We need a dominant rb to really enhance this O and keep it at a high level I think.
You should re-read your sentence. And think about what you said in it. And what it means.
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Old 01-28-2019, 01:48 AM   #6
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You should re-read your sentence. And think about what you said in it. And what it means.
If he's relying on being schemed open then he's not top class. The better rb's don't need to be schemed open, THEY DOMINATE either way. I hope you can fathom my point this time.
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Old 01-28-2019, 08:07 AM   #7
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If he's relying on being schemed open then he's not top class. The better rb's don't need to be schemed open, THEY DOMINATE either way. I hope you can fathom my point this time.
I got it in the first place. I think you're misguided.

RB's always do well in Reid's scheme. Always. Because, as you say, they are 'schemed open'.

Hunt had some particular physical attributes, notably outstanding balance. Damien Williams is a good receiver, pass blocker, shifty runner with some power and 'want to'. He produces like a top 10 back projected over a full season. You also have Darrel Williams, who has looked like an excellent power back in limited duty. And Ware, who just a couple of years ago was your #1 back and has 4 years now in the offense. If you had to, West has also been decent. You have a stable of RB's that can all produce.

Statistically speaking, however, we lost absolutely nothing when Hunt left. The production didn't drop off.

When you have a top flight offense with everyone returning, including depth at RB, and a #31 ranked defense, you don't spend draft capital or FA money on RB's. Even with Hunt here, RB is like the 3rd option of this offense.
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Old 01-28-2019, 08:26 AM   #8
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I got it in the first place. I think you're misguided.

RB's always do well in Reid's scheme. Always. Because, as you say, they are 'schemed open'.

Hunt had some particular physical attributes, notably outstanding balance. Damien Williams is a good receiver, pass blocker, shifty runner with some power and 'want to'. He produces like a top 10 back projected over a full season. You also have Darrel Williams, who has looked like an excellent power back in limited duty. And Ware, who just a couple of years ago was your #1 back and has 4 years now in the offense. If you had to, West has also been decent. You have a stable of RB's that can all produce.

Statistically speaking, however, we lost absolutely nothing when Hunt left. The production didn't drop off.

When you have a top flight offense with everyone returning, including depth at RB, and a #31 ranked defense, you don't spend draft capital or FA money on RB's. Even with Hunt here, RB is like the 3rd option of this offense.
Well firstly Ware is a free agent this offseason and is unlikely to be back. Secondly Williams has been in the league for a while now and this is his best ever period of production and why is that? It's because he's scheme reliant imo and isn't someone who's natural ability can change a game like Kareem could. Tbh I would be stunned if the Chiefs follow your logic and don't get a new rb. Yes, the defense needs attention but there is no harm in strengthening your strength (offense) a little more too.
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Old 01-28-2019, 08:48 AM   #9
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He was schemed open imo. We need a dominant rb to really enhance this O and keep it at a high level I think.
Most RBs are schemed open, it’s the nature of the position. Go look at how many yards Gurley’s o line blocks for him. Hint: the o line produces more yards than Gurley.
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