***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BigCatDaddy]

So just to confirm the CDC is recommending social distancing of 10 or fewer people and not the SIP that some places have adopted?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

I can appreciate the positiveness of everyone but lots of states do not report over the weekends. That is one of the reasons Mondays have had higher numbers.

Going through the sources, I don't see a single state that didn't report yesterday and today. Even the CDC, which wasn't updating over the weekend (closed out 4:00pm Fridays) now is.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Why is it people grasp so easily onto the bad numbers but endlessly question anything to the contrary?

I don't get that either. It seems like people strive to latch onto the most negative shit.

I am in the camp that thinks the disease has spread far further than anyone realizes and the reason we don't know is because it is actually a fairly mild disease for the VAST majority of people.

In regards to weekend numbers, I don't trust that they are reported accurately but I will not be surprised at all to see today's numbers pan out because at some point soon I feel the upward trend is going to stall due to a number of factors.

It will be interesting to see if social distancing and such are the main factors slowing things and cases/day drop off first then deaths/day follows. I have a feeling that will not be the case.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

So just to confirm the CDC is recommending social distancing of 10 or fewer people and not the SIP that some places have adopted?

The CDC gives broad guidelines.

Shelter in place orders come from the local governments.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Not bad. I'm sure you don't feel great, but obviously watch any type of exertion.

I need help showering, FFS.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Why is your way of thinking better than anybody else’s , people are going to see things in a way that might reflect their view point , some people just see them as numbers with no emotional aspect .


People are different .

Where did I say my way of thinking was better? I am just noticing that people are endlessly questioning any good news but grasping the hint of any bad news with both hands.

[Redbled]

Originally Posted by displacedinMN

Going to start teaching tomorrow. Distance learning.

Won't see the kids face to face..may be a good thing.

Same.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Where did I say my way of thinking was better? I am just noticing that people are endlessly questioning any good news but grasping the hint of any bad news with both hands.

That is normal for most people. There is a reason people love the apocalyptic movies. There are reasons we have "preppers" and hoarders. Same reason people love horror flicks and boxing etc. Why doesn't the news show all the good stories that happen every day.

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[carlos3652]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Where did I say my way of thinking was better? I am just noticing that people are endlessly questioning any good news but grasping the hint of any bad news with both hands.

You are right Pete. We should be celebrating the lower numbers today. I hope people do and I really hope that it’s a trend that will continue to manifest itself.

[Donger]

277 new deaths in NY yesterday.
82 today

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Being truthful is not fear mongering.

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I was only joking man. I'm with you on this.

Too many ppl in this thread have downplayed the CoronaVirus. Anytime someone posts news that isnt fantasy land 'this will be over in a wk' they claim you are either fear-mongering or that you only like bad news which is ridiculous.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Donger

277 new deaths in NY yesterday.
82 today

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Where did I say my way of thinking was better? I am just noticing that people are endlessly questioning any good news but grasping the hint of any bad news with both hands.

You were questioning why people don’t see things the way you do. Hell I do it with my wife all the time it’s just the way it is, I will never convince her to think like me.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

277 new deaths in NY yesterday.
82 today

And damn near 1,000 less new cases

[Hammock Parties]

Half the deaths today is amazing news.