Frank Clark to KC!

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Sources: The #Seahawks and #Chiefs are deep in talks on a trade to send star Frank Clark to KC. The compensation would include a 1st rounder, a 2020 2nd rounder and a swap of mid-rounders. To complete it, the franchise tagged player and Chiefs must hammer out a deal.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 23, 2019

[KChiefs1]

Baldy on the trade.

https://youtu.be/jYfht7Td3b8

[Best22]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

What's the reaction of Seattle fans?

I can only surmise that they are celebrating like Joffrey Baratheon just OD'd?

They like the compensation but also acknowledge that Clark is a great player who likely won’t be replaced anytime soon. Bittersweet but optimistic, kind of like me

[Supmarkus]

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

Garafolo States today that Jones agent has been negotiating for the past couple weeks and is seeking around 20 mil a year. Deal will get done

Hadn’t seen that on Jones, cheers!

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

In one offseason, the Chiefs turned:
Justin Houston (expensive brokedick)
Eric Berry (expensive brokedick)
Dee Ford (perennial brokedick who only consistently shows up in a contract year)
Eric Murray (trash)
The number 29 pick

Into:
Honey Badger
Bashaud Breeland (on a cheap deal)
Ogbah
Frank Clark
Okafor

It’s almost as if the Chiefs defense ****ing sucked last year and they needed to upgrade quickly with immediate proven commodities. Quite the concept.

i enjoy this post much.

[BryanBusby]

Here's what I think now that it has settled in.

Did they overpay for Clark? Sure, they did. I don't think it was a dramatic overpay though.

The 29th is practically a 2nd rounder and a late 2nd in 2020 (lets be realistic, they are taking the lesser one and at least 1 of us of the 49ers are going to the playoffs....if not both teams and it would take a Pat injury for us to not make it). That's a future late 2nd, which carries the value of a late 3rd today.

Staying at 29 would have been the drizzling shits. They basically sent the value equivalent of a 2+late 3rd for a high end edge Defender. It was going to cost more to land one in the draft.

Saying this is the worst overspend is the stupidest ****ing thing I've read yet today (Hamas). Must have been under a rock when they spent 33 + another 2 for tiny hands checkdown or the 35th pick for Afcasselstan. Ease up on the waterworks because uh, this isn't even close.

They just need a #1 corner and they'll have a very competent Defense. As for the cap. Do you guys still give a **** about it?

[Kiimo]

We ALL agree Frank Clark is a good to great player.

That doesn't make it a great trade.

This is two years now where they have abandoned a corner for a defensive lineman.

They better get Bunting with their 2nd.

[O.city]

They better hope the picks in the 2nd/3rd are good players.

[ForeverChiefs58]

PFF KC Chiefs
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Seattle was Fisher’s 2nd lowest graded game, trailing the Cardinals game against Chandler Jones.

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@PFF_Chiefs was Fisher’s worst game in 2019 vs Clark and the Seahawks? Just curious

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Why does any objectivity have to go out the window once this team makes a move? That makes no ****ing sense.

Maybe it WAS the right move. Maybe this guy can't draft for shit and getting proven product at any cost is the way to go!

I would have preferred to wait out the CB market a bit, see what happens post draft, and go to the draft with the idea of picking up a good DE in the first, a CB in the second, and a Center in the 3rd.

I would have preferred to get younger, CHEAPER talent so that we can pay the people we need to pay this year, and let our new coaching staff prove their worth.

This guy Clark might be the greatest FA we've ever picked up but I'm not going to start doing cartwheels every time Veach makes a move because until he can demonstrate that his ass cheeks can assume a position other than "wide the **** open" and "open for business/no lube required", I don't trust him enough to throw a parade for every move he makes yet.

It's that simple.

You just have some hypothetical DE on the board at 29 that may not even be there, and is far, far from a sure thing.

You want another Speaks/Kpasso Situation while we play out Mahomes' final contract years?

Yeah, no ****ing thanks. You can keep that shit.

Wait till after the draft to find a CB? WTF kind of talent do you think you're going to find after the draft in FA? You think Peterson is all of a sudden gonna get cut post-draft or some shit. News flash dude, you don't get MORE talented players the longer you wait.

And who said Jones/Hill won't get paid?

Jones will likely still get paid this year. And Sorry Tyreek, but you ****ed up dude. Now he has to wait for his off-field drama to clear up before the Chiefs guarantee you shit.

This isn't about objectivity. Objectivity would be realizing that forcing a pick for DE if an elite DE isn't there is bum-**** reeruned, and that we just added one of the better DE's in the game right now.

Your plan sucks, plain and simple. Your plan isn't a plan.

Your "plan" is basically to buy cheap, Chineese counter-fit parts (because hey, you saved money!) and hoping your car doesn't break down half way through your road trip.

**** that, SDH. Buy OE and drive confident! Even if it costs you more money.

[Supmarkus]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

In one offseason, the Chiefs turned:
Justin Houston (expensive brokedick)
Eric Berry (expensive brokedick)
Dee Ford (perennial brokedick who only consistently shows up in a contract year)
Eric Murray (trash)
The number 29 pick

Into:
Honey Badger
Bashaud Breeland (on a cheap deal)
Ogbah
Frank Clark
Okafor

It’s almost as if the Chiefs defense ****ing sucked last year and they needed to upgrade quickly with immediate proven commodities. Quite the concept.

Superb post

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Originally Posted by O.city

They better hope the picks in the 2nd/3rd are good players.

Our third round picks have turned into studs

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

We apparently should have traded up in the 1st.....spending draft picks like we are now....for an unproven player that may or may not be there.

Nobody is saying that's even close to a replacement for Frank Clark. People think this is a straight up trade top using a top 20 pick (assume 2nd rounder used for a trade-up) for Frank Clark. It isn't. It's a top 20 pick + $20M that could have been spent elsewhere (either on 1 player or multiple).

As an example, imagine if we went after Landon Collins instead without picks. Clark is a better player but would you trade Collins + a first rounder to get Frank Clark? I'm happy we made an aggressive move. But it feels like a panic because we couldn't get other deals done. We can feel good about the trade while still feeling like we reached big time.

[Codered]

I think Clark is a damn good player. I just don't agree with everyone's dismissal of the 29th overall pick. You do realize Clark was drafted in the 2nd round, right? There is still value at 29th let's not go overboard.

[007]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

We have not had a player like Clark in a long time. Houston used to be that player- but disappeared last year.

Clark is going to energize this defense. Badger, Jones and Clark- nobody will be dogging on the defense this year and not get yelled at to step it up.

Now if we could only get Devin Bush in the draft, draft a Safety so we can get rid of Sorenson this could be a top 10 unit.

Disappeared last year? Don't you mean after he signed his contact extension.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by O.city

They better hope the picks in the 2nd/3rd are good players.

Honestly, I hope we find a good center.