***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TLO]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Like Nares depth or Nasopharangeal depth lol. I wonder where you go to do the spit test like all the players are doing.

The rapid test I've had administered typically aren't as invasive as a nasopharangeal swab.

I've had both and can tell you there's definitely a difference.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by TLO

The rapid test I've had administered typically aren't as invasive as a nasopharangeal swab.

I've had both and can tell you there's definitely a difference.

I had the nasal swab done this morning. It wasn't bad at all.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

The 6% thing making the rounds was just a couple of weeks ago. It showed up in this thread multiple times. We had to waste energy debunking something that should have been obvious to a reasonably intelligent 3rd-grader: if you have lived with diabetes for decades, and then die of covid, you did not die from diabetes. You died from covid.

Please point me to the posts where you spent time debunking this nonsense, as many of us did, and I'll take your claims more seriously that you're just seeking the truth.

I've spent plenty of energy itt debunking wild claims both the covid hoax side and the covid catastrophe side (IE -78% have permanent heart damage) - as have O.City, TLO, Lewdog, Hamas, donger and a bunch more I'm forgetting. We literally just want to figure this thing out.

This extremely small study was flawed... and to say that damage is permanent or not similar to other repository viruses and their effect on the heart is intellectually dishonest.

[suzzer99]

Exactly - and I spent time debunking it in this thread. Which was my point.

The study pool is completely unclear (100 people who got on the Frankfurt hospital registry somehow). And it's not clear that elevated troponin = permanent heart damage. Marathon runners have elevated troponin after a race. It's something, but often never manifests itself as a problem.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by TLO

The rapid test I've had administered typically aren't as invasive as a nasopharangeal swab.

I've had both and can tell you there's definitely a difference.

Oh I know there is a difference. Ive performed the both around 100 times each as a lab tech. The NP one is just awful and I had to do one on a baby for an RSV test.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah, rural MO doesn't seem to be doing much about it. It's hitting hard here now.

We're at our highest hospitalization count since this started in St. Joe.

We're also seeing our highest number of positive cases coming back day after day after day.

The storm is here.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Oh I know there is a difference. Ive performed the both around 100 times each as a lab tech. The NP one is just awful and I had to do one on a baby for an RSV test.

The NP one doesn't start out so bad. But about 6 seconds in, it's like "oh my God how many times is this person going to rotate this thing around in my nose"

Then they say, "is it okay if we do the other nostril?"

Yes... Go ahead. I want you to get a good sample. Just please try to leave the majority of my brain intact.

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah, there's been alot of empathy lacking for those less fortunate.

This applies to politics as well, as a Catholic

[BigCatDaddy]

Smart virus?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavir...2l03O6ZpdTUc5Y

[TLO]

Statins reduce COVID-19 severity, likely by removing cholesterol that virus uses to infect

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0923164603.htm

Interesting read.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by TLO

We're at our highest hospitalization count since this started in St. Joe.

We're also seeing our highest number of positive cases coming back day after day after day.

The storm is here.

Same here

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by TLO

Statins reduce COVID-19 severity, likely by removing cholesterol that virus uses to infect

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0923164603.htm

Interesting read.

I guess that's one more way to get the 20% of society that's not already on a statin to get on one.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

Statins reduce COVID-19 severity, likely by removing cholesterol that virus uses to infect

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0923164603.htm

Interesting read.

I brought this up several months ago. The claim back then was people who take statins regularly might be putting themselves in a great position to avoid getting Covid.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Bringing in opinions from people back in Feb and March is extremely disingenuous to the current conversation and you know it.

Like Fauci, and the CDC?

How many times in this thread has someone started with "Fauci said in March...:"

[jdubya]

Some theatres opening back up here in NorCal for the first time since the beginning. 25% capacity.

I guess Florida is dropping all restrictions.