***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[KCUnited]

https://www.dupageco.org/Coroner/Cor...ws/2020/63473/

RICHARD A. JORGENSEN, MD, FACS
CORONER
DU PAGE COUNTY, ILLINOIS

PRESS RELEASE
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Thursday, September 17, 2020
Public Safety Announcement: Surge in Suicide Deaths Review First 6 Months of 2020.

DuPage County Coroner Richard Jorgensen, M.D. reports data indicating an alarming increase in suicidal deaths in DuPage County. This Public Service Announcement is a report after an in-depth review of all deaths due to suicidal deaths in the first six (6) months of 2020, during the onset of COVID-19 “shelter at home” compared to the same period in 2019.

A thorough investigation and review of every suicide case has been undertaken to understand the circumstances and cause of this rise in suicide deaths. Personal, demographic and toxicological information was collected and reviewed to identify trends on who and how these overdoses occurred in the hope of fostering a better understanding of the problem and identifying potential solutions both on a personal and societal level.

Suicide Death Data:
Overall Deaths 1/1/2019-6/30/2019: -44

Overall Deaths 1/1/2020-6/30/2020: -54 (22.7% increase)

Pre Covid-19 Lockdown (76 days 42% of the time) = 20 suicides (37% of deaths)

Post Covid-19 Lockdown (105 days 58% of the time) = 34 suicides (67% of deaths)

Age
<19 -1

20-29 -11

30-39 -6

40-49 -9

50-59 -10

60-69 -9

70-79 -5

80+ -3

Sex:
Male -43 (80%)

Female -11 (20%)

Ethnicity:
(Numbers in parenthesis are DuPage County census data)

Caucasian (77.9%): #-44 = 81.5 %

Black* (4.6%) #-3 = 5.5 %

Hispanic (13.3%): # 2- =3.7 %

Asian (10.1%) #-5 = 9.2 %

In summary, the number of suicidal deaths have increased by 22.7% over the same period in 2019. The majority of this increase was during the “Shelter at Home” COVID-19 period. There were 20 suicides in the Pre-COVID time frame. During the COVID quarantine there were 34 deaths. The age data reveals a peak in the 20s and another in the 50s. However, there were 5 (five) persons in their 70s and 3 (three) in their 80’s. The ethnic background roughly parallels the makeup of DuPage County as cited in the 2010 census report. Males were approximately 80% of those who died.

Dr Jorgensen stated “Evaluation of each case reveals a common thread. Almost every case of suicide revealed that the deceased person had a history of mental health issues, depression, personal, financial or marital problems, previous drug dependence or rehabilitation or were divorced, never married or living alone. It is suggested by these findings that the most vulnerable in our society are being affected negatively by the COVID-19 shutdown and response to isolation and lack of treatment availability.

Coroner Jorgensen concludes : “It appears that an unforeseen collateral consequence of the stresses of “Shelter at Home” which resulted in isolation, lack of community and companionship is taking its toll on the most vulnerable of our society. If you know of people who are at high risk: known drug users those in rehabilitation, persons living alone, having personal, financial or marital difficulty, mental health issues or depression, please reach out (you can still wear masks and social distance) and talk to them and see if they need companionship, support or help. These are difficult times made worse when an individual has mental health, depression or addiction issues. We are all in this together and need to reach out to all of those who are vulnerable in this difficult time. “

[loochy]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

https://www.dupageco.org/Coroner/Cor...ws/2020/63473/

RICHARD A. JORGENSEN, MD, FACS
CORONER
DU PAGE COUNTY, ILLINOIS

PRESS RELEASE
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Thursday, September 17, 2020
Public Safety Announcement: Surge in Suicide Deaths Review First 6 Months of 2020.

DuPage County Coroner Richard Jorgensen, M.D. reports data indicating an alarming increase in suicidal deaths in DuPage County. This Public Service Announcement is a report after an in-depth review of all deaths due to suicidal deaths in the first six (6) months of 2020, during the onset of COVID-19 “shelter at home” compared to the same period in 2019.

A thorough investigation and review of every suicide case has been undertaken to understand the circumstances and cause of this rise in suicide deaths. Personal, demographic and toxicological information was collected and reviewed to identify trends on who and how these overdoses occurred in the hope of fostering a better understanding of the problem and identifying potential solutions both on a personal and societal level.

Suicide Death Data:
Overall Deaths 1/1/2019-6/30/2019: -44

Overall Deaths 1/1/2020-6/30/2020: -54 (22.7% increase)

Pre Covid-19 Lockdown (76 days 42% of the time) = 20 suicides (37% of deaths)

Post Covid-19 Lockdown (105 days 58% of the time) = 34 suicides (67% of deaths)

Age
<19 -1

20-29 -11

30-39 -6

40-49 -9

50-59 -10

60-69 -9

70-79 -5

80+ -3

Sex:
Male -43 (80%)

Female -11 (20%)

Ethnicity:
(Numbers in parenthesis are DuPage County census data)

Caucasian (77.9%): #-44 = 81.5 %

Black* (4.6%) #-3 = 5.5 %

Hispanic (13.3%): # 2- =3.7 %

Asian (10.1%) #-5 = 9.2 %

In summary, the number of suicidal deaths have increased by 22.7% over the same period in 2019. The majority of this increase was during the “Shelter at Home” COVID-19 period. There were 20 suicides in the Pre-COVID time frame. During the COVID quarantine there were 34 deaths. The age data reveals a peak in the 20s and another in the 50s. However, there were 5 (five) persons in their 70s and 3 (three) in their 80’s. The ethnic background roughly parallels the makeup of DuPage County as cited in the 2010 census report. Males were approximately 80% of those who died.

Dr Jorgensen stated “Evaluation of each case reveals a common thread. Almost every case of suicide revealed that the deceased person had a history of mental health issues, depression, personal, financial or marital problems, previous drug dependence or rehabilitation or were divorced, never married or living alone. It is suggested by these findings that the most vulnerable in our society are being affected negatively by the COVID-19 shutdown and response to isolation and lack of treatment availability.

Coroner Jorgensen concludes : “It appears that an unforeseen collateral consequence of the stresses of “Shelter at Home” which resulted in isolation, lack of community and companionship is taking its toll on the most vulnerable of our society. If you know of people who are at high risk: known drug users those in rehabilitation, persons living alone, having personal, financial or marital difficulty, mental health issues or depression, please reach out (you can still wear masks and social distance) and talk to them and see if they need companionship, support or help. These are difficult times made worse when an individual has mental health, depression or addiction issues. We are all in this together and need to reach out to all of those who are vulnerable in this difficult time. “

all of those count as COVID deaths

[O.city]

Originally Posted by O.city

Appreciate it guys

Seems the rest of the family that has it has pretty much recovered at this point

Well, maybe they aren't all recovered. Hopefully this issue isn't a covid one though but appreciate all the good thoughts and prayers guys.

[Baby Lee]

New England Journal of Medicine with the save.

Even if masks AREN'T effective, they reduce anxiety.

And as we know, anxiety is a notorious viral vector.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

New England Journal of Medicine with the save.

Even if masks AREN'T effective, they reduce anxiety.

And as we know, anxiety is a notorious viral vector.

As someone with pretty extensive anxiety, let me be the first to say...

BULL-SHIT

[KCrockaholic]

Ya the masks don't reduce anxiety at all. If anything it makes it worse. Just speaking from my own personal experience with them.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

As someone with pretty extensive anxiety, let me be the first to say...

BULL-SHIT

Masks are magic...they save everyone from everything!!!

[stumppy]

200,000 is a ****ing crime.

[O.city]

Well, wife’s great aunt that tested positive last week was admitted this morning after having a heart attack last night. She’s been asymptomatic thru the whole thing but I’m guessing the stress of her brother passing suddenly from COVID caused some stress

**** man this is rough

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by O.city

Well, wife’s great aunt that tested positive last week was admitted this morning after having a heart attack last night. She’s been asymptomatic thru the whole thing but I’m guessing the stress of her brother passing suddenly from COVID caused some stress

**** man this is rough

Jesus, I'm sorry.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

I'm so sorry O.city :-(

[Bob Dole]

Someone I know had a good observation today. Went in some store pushing flu shots. If the masks protect us from COVID, shouldn’t they also protect us from the flu ?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

Well, wife’s great aunt that tested positive last week was admitted this morning after having a heart attack last night. She’s been asymptomatic thru the whole thing but I’m guessing the stress of her brother passing suddenly from COVID caused some stress

**** man this is rough

I don't have the words. I'm so sorry.

PM me if you need to chat. I don't know what I can offer but a listening ear, but would be glad to do so.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Someone I know had a good observation today. Went in some store pushing flu shots. If the masks protect us from COVID, shouldn’t they also protect us from the flu ?

Yes. They will have a positive impact on our flu season. If enough people are wearing masks that is.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by stumppy

200,000 is a ****ing crime.

It's awful. It could also be a lot worse.

It's also not over.