***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[CaliforniaChief]

What's the consensus on state to state travel while driving? We were planning on visiting our son, who's living alone, for several days next week...I can't go because I have to manage work right now, but the wife and kids were still going to go.

Are they going to ban driving from state to state?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

I'm assuming he means they are going to take older model ventilators and retrofit them with modern tech?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

What's the consensus on state to state travel while driving? We were planning on visiting our son, who's living alone, for several days next week...I can't go because I have to manage work right now, but the wife and kids were still going to go.

Are they going to ban driving from state to state?

I can't imagine that that will happen. But, you might need "papers"...

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by O.city

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how much?

[Dayze]

Thank god my wife is scheduled to arrive back in KC around 4pm from 2 weeks in Costa Rica for work.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

What's the consensus on state to state travel while driving? We were planning on visiting our son, who's living alone, for several days next week...I can't go because I have to manage work right now, but the wife and kids were still going to go.

Are they going to ban driving from state to state?

shit man i'd be worried about getting out of big cities, let alone states...

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by O.city

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I'd like to take this opportunity to say you're my favorite poster on CP, your football knowledge is beyond compare and, from what I understand you're quite handsome.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

I’ve got a 7th grader and two 4th graders that would be devastated if they had to retake those grades again. I mean ****....were basically 3 months away from the end of the school year. They’ve done the majority of it already. Get a plan and pass them.

The disctrict here is going to do elearning to finish the year. They will get lesson plans and assignments. Turn them into their teachers on Microsoft teams. This is for grades K-12. Giving students computers and spectrum is putting in free broadband for the classes.


The goal is to get everyone through this year and on to the next year.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

What's the consensus on state to state travel while driving? We were planning on visiting our son, who's living alone, for several days next week...I can't go because I have to manage work right now, but the wife and kids were still going to go.

Are they going to ban driving from state to state?

Constitutional law is abundantly clear on the right to interstate travel.

So again, absent a suspension of the Constitution and the imposition of martial law, there's no way to ban travel from state to state.

Now there is a caveat there that's not 100% fleshed out - there isn't necessarily a right to use public roads.

So could the government lock down federal highways? Hmmmm.....maybe?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

how much?

Originally Posted by stumppy

I'd like to take this opportunity to say you're my favorite poster on CP, your football knowledge is beyond compare and, from what I understand you're quite handsome.

via GIPHY

[Donger]

The report, issued Wednesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, found that — as in other countries — the oldest patients had the greatest likelihood of dying and of being hospitalized. But of the 508 patients known to have been hospitalized, 38 percent were notably younger — between 20 and 54. And nearly half of the 121 patients who were admitted to intensive care units were adults under 65, the C.D.C. reported.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/...cid=mm6912e2_w

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Originally Posted by Donger

The report, issued Wednesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, found that — as in other countries — the oldest patients had the greatest likelihood of dying and of being hospitalized. But of the 508 patients known to have been hospitalized, 38 percent were notably younger — between 20 and 54. And nearly half of the 121 patients who were admitted to intensive care units were adults under 65, the C.D.C. reported.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/...cid=mm6912e2_w

Early Data from China do you really believe what they’re reporting?

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by O.city

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All Hail our new overlord!

[Donger]

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

Early Data from China do you really believe what they’re reporting?

As of March 16, a total of 4,226 COVID-19 cases had been reported in the United States, with reports increasing to 500 or more cases per day beginning March 14 (Figure 1). Among 2,449 patients with known age, 6% were aged ≥85, 25% were aged 65–84 years, 18% each were aged 55–64 years and 45–54 years, and 29% were aged 20–44 years (Figure 2). Only 5% of cases occurred in persons aged 0–19 years.

Among 508 (12%) patients known to have been hospitalized, 9% were aged ≥85 years, 26% were aged 65–84 years, 17% were aged 55–64 years, 18% were 45–54 years, and 20% were aged 20–44 years. Less than 1% of hospitalizations were among persons aged ≤19 years (Figure 2). The percentage of persons hospitalized increased with age, from 2%–3% among persons aged ≤9 years, to ≥31% among adults aged ≥85 years. (Table).

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Constitutional law is abundantly clear on the right to interstate travel.

So again, absent a suspension of the Constitution and the imposition of martial law, there's no way to ban travel from state to state.

Now there is a caveat there that's not 100% fleshed out - there isn't necessarily a right to use public roads.

So could the government lock down federal highways? Hmmmm.....maybe?

I can't imagine they'd get to that point. We can't shut down the trucking industry, for example.