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Old 07-16-2020, 09:51 PM   #2
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Yes Florida is booming with new cases. Coincidence, I think not.
4 weeks ago we were seeing 40k new cases a day. Deaths lag, so deaths today should be reasonably accurate to compare to those cases. We've been about 950 deaths the last 2-3 days.

What can be derive from that? It would be two likely possible scenarios.
1) We are better at treating the virus now than we were in the Spring
2) More of the REPORTED cases are mild or asymptomatic

I have not seen much to indicate we've gotten much better at treating the virus, but someone correct me if I'm wrong, so it appears #2 is true. Either way we can conclude that if we had the testing abilities now in the Spring we would have seen many, many more reported cases. Cases do not tell the story. Deaths correlated with the cases 3-5 weeks before is a better indicator.

Either way, 1,000 a day is nothing to sneeze at. And if we maintain this level of social distancing and discredit mask wearing we are going to have to shut everything down this winter - or just allow 4,000 to 5,000 people a day to die.
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Old 07-17-2020, 07:57 AM   #3
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4 weeks ago we were seeing 40k new cases a day. Deaths lag, so deaths today should be reasonably accurate to compare to those cases. We've been about 950 deaths the last 2-3 days.

What can be derive from that? It would be two likely possible scenarios.
1) We are better at treating the virus now than we were in the Spring
2) More of the REPORTED cases are mild or asymptomatic

I have not seen much to indicate we've gotten much better at treating the virus, but someone correct me if I'm wrong, so it appears #2 is true. Either way we can conclude that if we had the testing abilities now in the Spring we would have seen many, many more reported cases. Cases do not tell the story. Deaths correlated with the cases 3-5 weeks before is a better indicator.

Either way, 1,000 a day is nothing to sneeze at. And if we maintain this level of social distancing and discredit mask wearing we are going to have to shut everything down this winter - or just allow 4,000 to 5,000 people a day to die.
Don't forget most of the country was on lockdown in the spring. I say the spike is a combination of better/more testing and people not maintaining social distancing. I like to knock back a few cold ones at my favorite watering hole, but if you pack the place and everyone is maskless (how do you drink beer weaing a mask?), of course the rate is going to go up.
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Old 07-17-2020, 01:18 PM   #4
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Yes Florida is booming with new cases. Coincidence, I think not.
Yeah and masks haven't done jack shit.

There have been mask mandates in Miami-Dade and Broward Counties since early April and that hasn't stopped the spread of the virus.
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Old 07-17-2020, 01:45 PM   #5
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Yeah and masks haven't done jack shit.

There have been mask mandates in Miami-Dade and Broward Counties since early April and that hasn't stopped the spread of the virus.
The mandates haven't been followed by everyone though. It seems that is what has been and continues to be the main problem, not everyone is going to follow the mandate.
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Old 07-17-2020, 04:49 PM   #6
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The mandates haven't been followed by everyone though. It seems that is what has been and continues to be the main problem, not everyone is going to follow the mandate.
Sooooo, you're saying we need 100% compliance for masks to be effective?
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Old 07-17-2020, 05:03 PM   #7
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Sooooo, you're saying we need 100% compliance for masks to be effective?
Boy wouldn't that be something. I'm saying that I personally know people, maybe close to 50%, that have never and say they will never wear a mask so it's kind of hard to judge it's effectiveness.
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Old 07-18-2020, 09:00 PM   #8
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The mandates haven't been followed by everyone though. It seems that is what has been and continues to be the main problem, not everyone is going to follow the mandate.
I agree. Mandates are pointless.
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Old 07-17-2020, 03:13 PM   #9
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Yeah and masks haven't done jack shit.



There have been mask mandates in Miami-Dade and Broward Counties since early April and that hasn't stopped the spread of the virus.
People have to wear them for it to be affective.

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Old 07-17-2020, 04:49 PM   #10
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People have to wear them for it to be affective.

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They require them in KC now. Had to go to the dmv. The number of people with their noses hanging out or wearing them under their chin was crazy.

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