***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage

Kansas had 850 cases yesterday. That's not a real high number nationally but we have a small population. I thought it had to be a mistake but JoCo lists 175 new cases yesterday. JoCo first broke 50 cases on 6/24 with 53. Hopefully yesterday was a bit of an outlier on the high side but we're not headed in a good direction.

I was feeling pretty good about things for a month or so. Some good vaccine news would be nice. I saw China approved the use of CanSino's Ad5 vaccine for it's military personnel. I think it's supposed to start phase 3 trials in Canada over the summer.

The other day they said they were monitoring 10 hot spots in JoCo, all care facilities. I do know there was a bar\restaurant place where a cook tested positive well over a week ago.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by neech

Can you quarantine at home or do they immediately confine you and take them to hospital. The children crying as mom or pop gets hauled off before their eyes.

What the **** are you asking?

The hospitals are over run here. They’re asking you to quarantine at home unless you absolutely need medical care as last resort. They recommend monitoring your O2 SATS with a pulse ox and seek medical care advice if you’re dipping into the low 90’s and below or having other respiratory symptoms.

[neech]

Originally Posted by lewdog

What the **** are you asking?

The hospitals are over run here. They’re asking you to quarantine at home unless you absolutely need medical care as last resort. They recommend monitoring your O2 SATS with a pulse ox and seek medical care advice if you’re dipping into the low 90’s and below or having other respiratory symptoms.

You answered the question and thanks, I thought the question was clear myself.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by neech

You answered the question and thanks, I thought the question was clear myself.

Children crying as mom and pop get hauled off?

Yeah, that’s not happening anywhere unless the person needs actual medical care.

[ChiliConCarnage]

Originally Posted by petegz28

The other day they said they were monitoring 10 hot spots in JoCo, all care facilities. I do know there was a bar\restaurant place where a cook tested positive well over a week ago.

I started my post an hour earlier, got distracted and didn't finish it/submit until a bit ago. I didn't see your post until then. In an incredibly morbid way, I supposed that's good news.

I can't imagine how nerve wracking it must be to have a close family member in a long term care facility right now.

[neech]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Children crying as mom and pop get hauled off?

Yeah, that’s not happening anywhere unless the person needs actual medical care.

That was a little humor, I guess I'll have to tone that down.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by neech

That was a little humor, I guess I'll have to tone that down.

My apologies.

Xoxo

[lewdog]

Border between Mexico and Arizona closed as cases surge in both countries.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill...-country%3famp

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Border between Mexico and Arizona closed as cases surge in both countries.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill...-country%3famp

I've been saying it since this started that it was no coinkydink that Mexcio was doing badly and we saw our border states start to get hammered. Florida I blame on NY's travelers...I keed....sorta

Not saying Mexico is THE cause but it isn't helping those states at all.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Border between Mexico and Arizona closed as cases surge in both countries.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill...-country%3famp

Ha, like a closed border ever stopped anything

Laughable

[Discuss Thrower]

Because things couldn't possibly be stranger.

[suzzer99]

Hey, so, I got #Covid19 in March. I’ve been sick for over 3 months w/ severe respiratory, cardiovascular & neurological symptoms. I still have a fever. I’ve been incapacitated for nearly a season of my life. It's not enough to not die. You don’t want to live thru this, either. 1/

— Dani Oliver (@DaniOliver) July 3, 2020

This is the kind of stuff I'm worried about. If you told me it was just a 1 in 200 chance of death, but otherwise you'll recover 100% - somehow that wouldn't bother me as much.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Hey, so, I got #Covid19 in March. I’ve been sick for over 3 months w/ severe respiratory, cardiovascular & neurological symptoms. I still have a fever. I’ve been incapacitated for nearly a season of my life. It's not enough to not die. You don’t want to live thru this, either. 1/

— Dani Oliver (@DaniOliver) July 3, 2020

This is the kind of stuff I'm worried about. If you told me it was just a 1 in 200 chance of death, but otherwise you'll recover 100% - somehow that wouldn't bother me as much.

And how many people do you think are like her?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

What's the percentage on those that are in that bad if shape though. Fear mongering sack of shit media

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

What's the percentage on those that are in that bad if shape though. Fear mongering sack of shit media

I am sure there are people out there in similar situations as her but I think we all need to understand the percentage of those in her situation. Until that post I have not heard of anyone having Covid for that long.