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Old 01-23-2019, 10:23 AM   #2
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It's pretty much who I thought it would be.

As much as I wanted him to....Andy wasn't turning over the defense to a young guy with no experience as a DC.

Am I excited? Meh...not really. Is it better than Sutton? Yes.

Maybe now we'll shit can this stupid 3-4 and be aggressive.
Didn't this year's Chiefs defense have the most sacks, or close to it, of any team?
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:25 AM   #3
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Didn't this year's Chiefs defense have the most sacks, or close to it, of any team?
Yes, we also had arguably the NFL’s best trio of pass rushers in Ford/Jones/Houston. What’s your point?
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:26 AM   #4
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Yes, we also had arguably the NFL’s best trio of pass rushers in Ford/Jones/Houston. What’s your point?
How can a defense not be called aggressive with that sack count?
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:28 AM   #5
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His job will be very clear. Find a way to stop all the long clock killing drives that killed us. No one expects dominance but hold teams down forba half would be enough.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:30 AM   #6
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His job will be very clear. Find a way to stop all the long clock killing drives that killed us. No one expects dominance but hold teams down forba half would be enough.
Actually, dominance would be nice.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:29 AM   #7
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How can a defense not be called aggressive with that sack count?
This. Our MLBs and defensive backfield were hot garbage. We have ZERO run stuffing ability on the Dline.

The defense was about as aggressive as it could be.
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Ok so I’m curious if we switch 4-3 how does that work with current personnel?

Anyone wanna take a stab at it
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:25 AM   #9
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It's pretty much who I thought it would be.

As much as I wanted him to....Andy wasn't turning over the defense to a young guy with no experience as a DC.

Am I excited? Meh...not really. Is it better than Sutton? Yes.

Maybe now we'll shit can this stupid 3-4 and be aggressive.
Exactly. Andy wants a guy he ca set and forget. He wants to turn the defense over to someone who will control that side of the club so he can focus on Pat and the offense.

A young, never been before, DC is not that guy.

Spags has been both a DC and a HC, so he knows how to gameplan, prepare his team and control a locker room.

I dont love the hire either, but i get it.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:26 AM   #10
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Exactly. Andy wants a guy he ca set and forget. He wants to turn the defense over to someone who will control that side of the club so he can focus on Pat and the offense.

A young, never been before, DC is not that guy.

Spags has been both a DC and a HC, so he knows how to gameplan, prepare his team and control a locker room.

I dont love the hire either, but i get it.
This is going to be Reid's legacy right here. He'd better hope that Spags can get this shit back to at least average.
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:32 AM   #11
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How can a defense not be called aggressive with that sack count?
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Yes, we also had arguably the NFL’s best trio of pass rushers in Ford/Jones/Houston. What’s your point?
Sacks don't mean anything if you can't stop the run against a good offense that exposes this weakness especially in the playoffs. See the Pats game and time of possession.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:32 AM   #12
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Exactly. Andy wants a guy he ca set and forget. He wants to turn the defense over to someone who will control that side of the club so he can focus on Pat and the offense.

A young, never been before, DC is not that guy.

Spags has been both a DC and a HC, so he knows how to gameplan, prepare his team and control a locker room.

I dont love the hire either, but i get it.
I know this is what the league thinks. I get it.

But young coaches, especially the superstars, those ****ers are grinders man. They are 1,000 mph and they will kill themselves to get a shot at the big chair. They are so often out there providing the energy and the shot in the arm that an organization needs.

If I am looking for a "Head Coach of the Defense" then the EXACT guy I'm looking for is the hungry up and comer that will have the fire and energy and straight up hunger to go put forward the 100 hours that he needs to learn and create.

Not Romeo ****ing Crennel or Gunther or some other recycled old guy who thinks he has the answers already.

There's ample cause to flip that entire paradigm on its head and say that if you're looking for someone to turn the keys over to, the young guy is the way you SHOULD go.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:42 AM   #13
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I know this is what the league thinks. I get it.

But young coaches, especially the superstars, those ****ers are grinders man. They are 1,000 mph and they will kill themselves to get a shot at the big chair. They are so often out there providing the energy and the shot in the arm that an organization needs.

If I am looking for a "Head Coach of the Defense" then the EXACT guy I'm looking for is the hungry up and comer that will have the fire and energy and straight up hunger to go put forward the 100 hours that he needs to learn and create.

Not Romeo ****ing Crennel or Gunther or some other recycled old guy who thinks he has the answers already.

There's ample cause to flip that entire paradigm on its head and say that if you're looking for someone to turn the keys over to, the young guy is the way you SHOULD go.
Maybe Reid just didn't want to take the risk? Let's say with Spagnuolo (already annoying typing this clown's name) the average outcome with low variance is we go from 32nd to 25th in defense. That's probably enough to get us to the Super Bowl.

Whereas with one of these exciting young guys, our average outcome could be similar but with much higher variability. What if the guy totally didn't work and our defense actually regressed and we didn't even make Divisional Round because of it?

I guess if I thought we were really far away from a Super Bowl, I'd be much more inclined to take the risk of one of these young guys. But Reid presumably knows exactly what he's getting with Spagnuolo which isn't a bad thing when we're this close. Add to that the fact that Reid probably wants to take a very hands-off approach with the defense and needs an adult in that role.

Not saying I like the decision, but I understand it. There are so many factors that are going to determine whether this is a successful hire or not, so I'm not inclined to have too strong of an opinion at this point one way or the other.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:45 AM   #14
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Maybe Reid just didn't want to take the risk? Let's say with Spagnuolo (already annoying typing this clown's name) the average outcome with low variance is we go from 32nd to 25th in defense. That's probably enough to get us to the Super Bowl.

Whereas with one of these exciting young guys, our average outcome could be similar but with much higher variability. What if the guy totally didn't work and our defense actually regressed and we didn't even make Divisional Round because of it?

I guess if I thought we were really far away from a Super Bowl, I'd be much more inclined to take the risk of one of these young guys. But Reid presumably knows exactly what he's getting with Spagnuolo which isn't a bad thing when we're this close. Add to that the fact that Reid probably wants to take a very hands-off approach with the defense and needs an adult in that role.

Not saying I like the decision, but I understand it. There are so many factors that are going to determine whether this is a successful hire or not, so I'm not inclined to have too strong of an opinion at this point one way or the other.
Not wanting to take the risk got us stuck in slightly above average mediocrity for 5 years.
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Maybe Reid just didn't want to take the risk? Let's say with Spagnuolo (already annoying typing this clown's name) the average outcome with low variance is we go from 32nd to 25th in defense. That's probably enough to get us to the Super Bowl.

Whereas with one of these exciting young guys, our average outcome could be similar but with much higher variability. What if the guy totally didn't work and our defense actually regressed and we didn't even make Divisional Round because of it?

I guess if I thought we were really far away from a Super Bowl, I'd be much more inclined to take the risk of one of these young guys. But Reid presumably knows exactly what he's getting with Spagnuolo which isn't a bad thing when we're this close. Add to that the fact that Reid probably wants to take a very hands-off approach with the defense and needs an adult in that role.

Not saying I like the decision, but I understand it. There are so many factors that are going to determine whether this is a successful hire or not, so I'm not inclined to have too strong of an opinion at this point one way or the other.
How does one regress from the position of worst?
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