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Old 02-28-2024, 11:28 AM   #2
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We need more suffering in the NFL, not less.

The NFL was better when the players suffered more.
I think theres a perception problem.

If you work your hands to the bone for me.
Destroy every ligament, tendon, muscle.

And when you get home, I only offer you a peanut butter sandwich? When I'm capable of so much more?

Doesn't feel very teamy.
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Old 02-28-2024, 12:30 PM   #3
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I think theres a perception problem.

If you work your hands to the bone for me.
Destroy every ligament, tendon, muscle.

And when you get home, I only offer you a peanut butter sandwich? When I'm capable of so much more?

Doesn't feel very teamy.
What if it’s served on a golden plate??
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Old 02-28-2024, 07:27 PM   #4
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We need more suffering in the NFL, not less.

The NFL was better when the players suffered more.
Would love to see pics from the Chiefs 70s-80s practice facility locker rooms. I bet they're hilarious. Man Redwood City was a joke.
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Old 02-28-2024, 07:32 PM   #5
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We need more suffering in the NFL, not less.

The NFL was better when the players suffered more.
I agree. Players are getting paid so much money they don't care about improving their craft and getting better at their job, it's happening in all the major sports.
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Old 02-28-2024, 08:26 PM   #6
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I agree. Players are getting paid so much money they don't care about improving their craft and getting better at their job, it's happening in all the major sports.
The chiefs have won 3 Superbowls in 5 years. Somehow I don't think your post applies to them.

Maybe reward them a little bit. This is essentially the workplace pizza party meme except they just replaced stools with chairs.
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Old 02-28-2024, 08:29 PM   #7
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I agree. Players are getting paid so much money they don't care about improving their craft and getting better at their job, it's happening in all the major sports.
The rookies do.

More and more players checking out once they get that fat payday.
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Old 02-28-2024, 08:32 PM   #8
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The rookies do.

More and more players checking out once they get that fat payday.
Unless I was an elite NFL player, I'm not going to lie I would do that too. If I was a Mahomes or Kelce it would be a different story, you would have something to strive to. But if you are Ben ****ing Nieman...what is the point? Your only goal is to stay in the league as long as possible if you are him.
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Old 02-28-2024, 08:37 PM   #9
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Such a BS survey. If an owner makes decisions on the coach/GM/staff that allow your "team" to compete for the Lombardi and the personal glory that it brings for 5 consecutive years, how does that rate a "F-"? I guess you want him to be a drinking buddy and that makes him a better owner?
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Old 02-28-2024, 08:52 PM   #10
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Such a BS survey. If an owner makes decisions on the coach/GM/staff that allow your "team" to compete for the Lombardi and the personal glory that it brings for 5 consecutive years, how does that rate a "F-"? I guess you want him to be a drinking buddy and that makes him a better owner?
Honestly, I think they're misrepresenting this a little. They present it as the players just giving a grade and showing the average, but there's zero chance that our players universally think Clark is the worst owner in sports. We would have heard more of that by now.

Instead, the NFLPA asked players a variety of questions in each category and gave teams a grade based on some preconceived notions of what's important.

So, for example, they might have asked whether a player had ever felt pressured to play through an injury and dinged the training staff if the player said yes. That doesn't mean they necessarily would have given the training staff an F.


The nuance is small but important. I'd love to see their actual survey questions.
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