FOX & MacFarlane's The Orville

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by sully1983

Probably because Seth MacFarlane is not that funny and the idea is lame imo. Give me South Park over Family Guy or any of Seth's cringeworthy projects any day of the week please. So glad South Park took shots at Family Guy years ago. Great episode.

16 years on air but it's "not that good".

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

16 years on air but it's "not that good".

I won't say it's not good, but it is often lazy. And South Park absolutely pinpointed why.

Many many of their jokes weren't so much jokes as 'hey, remember when this happened. . . .'

'Geez, I'm more nervous than when that pedophile tried to give Arnold ice cream' - cut to 5 minute cartoon re-enactment of an episode of Diff'rent Strokes.

'Geez, I'm more mad when the Duke Boys thwarted Boss Hogg' - cut to 5 minute re-enactment of an episode of Dukes of Hazzard.

Rinse, repeat.

It's not all that different from Talk Soup or Tosh.0 in that regard. More commenting on how weird the rest of TV is, than making new TV.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I won't say it's not good, but it is often lazy. And South Park absolutely pinpointed why.

Many many of their jokes weren't so much jokes as 'hey, remember when this happened. . . .'

'Geez, I'm more nervous than when that pedophile tried to give Arnold ice cream' - cut to 5 minute cartoon re-enactment of an episode of Diff'rent Strokes.

'Geez, I'm more mad when the Duke Boys thwarted Boss Hogg' - cut to 5 minute re-enactment of an episode of Dukes of Hazzard.

Rinse, repeat.

It's not all that different from Talk Soup or Tosh.0 in that regard. More commenting on how weird the rest of TV is, than making new TV.

Non-OTA-network shows don't have the same FCC restrictions, so it really isn't a fair fight.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Non-OTA-network shows don't have the same FCC restrictions, so it really isn't a fair fight.

Don't generate arguments on my behalf, thanks. . .

I didn't say South Park was better because it was raunchier. I said Family Guy was often lazy in it's structure.

It's popular, and often funny, because it picked a structure that is amusing in a light, fluffy, way. If you want to credit 16 years of longevity to that structural decision, go ahead, but it's reference machine, like the Manatees with beach balls lampooned.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Don't generate arguments on my behalf, thanks. . .

I didn't say South Park was better because it was raunchier. I said Family Guy was often lazy in it's structure.

It's popular, and often funny, because it picked a structure that is amusing in a light, fluffy, way. If you want to credit 16 years of longevity to that structural decision, go ahead, but it's reference machine, like the Manatees with beach balls lampooned.

The point was that FG is often more limited with its content and humor as opposed to cable shows.

It's a very small sandbox, so it stands to reason that it can't replicate shows with less restrictions.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The point was that FG is often more limited with its content and humor as opposed to cable shows.

It's a very small sandbox, so it stands to reason that it can't replicate shows with less restrictions.

You want to see how few restrictions there are, watch Rick and Morty. They make a lot of hay out the freedom on Adult Swim, but even without that freedom, it has way more creativity than just about anything out there, animated or no.

Nothing about network mandates FG's structure. If it did, it wouldn't be the only network show that has it.

[sully1983]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I won't say it's not good, but it is often lazy. And South Park absolutely pinpointed why.

Many many of their jokes weren't so much jokes as 'hey, remember when this happened. . . .'

'Geez, I'm more nervous than when that pedophile tried to give Arnold ice cream' - cut to 5 minute cartoon re-enactment of an episode of Diff'rent Strokes.

'Geez, I'm more mad when the Duke Boys thwarted Boss Hogg' - cut to 5 minute re-enactment of an episode of Dukes of Hazzard.

Rinse, repeat.

It's not all that different from Talk Soup or Tosh.0 in that regard. More commenting on how weird the rest of TV is, than making new TV.

Thank you! You said it better than I could. Family Guy is flat out lazy comedy.