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Old 12-14-2020, 01:54 PM   #2
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I don't know anything about the upcoming story just yet. They hired several different writers for the Film version, all of which were discarded in favor of a Disney+ TV series, then dumped all of those scripts once The Mandalorian began airing because the overall theme of the series was too similar (instead of The Mando protecting Grogu, it was Obi Wan protecting Luke).

I don't think they should concern themselves with what was said in A New Hope. There was an implication that Vader and Obi Wan hadn't seen each other in quite some time but whether that was 20 years or 10 years (which is when the series is reportedly set) or even 5 years, they should just go with whatever makes the story work.

One line of dialog that they'll never get past is that Obi Wan states "For over a thousand generations, the Jedi knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the old Republic... before the dark times... before the Empire", which was contradicted by Palpatine when he said "I will not allow this Republic, which has stood for 1,000 years...".

I just want a great story and hope we see at least one lightsaber battle between Obi Wan and Vader, regardless of that dialog. They could pull the old "From a certain point of view" to make up for the time that had passed between their last encounter and their most recent encounter.
Honestly the only bit of dialogue that would be upset by them facing in that time period would be at the beginning of the lightsaber battle, Vader references the fact that the last time they fought he was a learner & now he (Vader) is the master.

However given that in the prequels they made Anakin a member of the council & he had taken an apprentice in the clone wars series. So it's hard to argue that Anakin was still just a learner when he fought Obi Wan as he was already considered a Jedi master, had already taken an apprentice & was on the council.
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Old 12-11-2020, 06:37 PM   #3
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Old 12-11-2020, 07:08 PM   #4
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That’s fair.
I watched Attack of the Clones two nights ago and Revenge of the Sith last night, before staying up until Midnight to watch Chapter 15 of The Mandalorian and one thing that really hit me was that Obi Wan was just as responsible for Anakin's fall to the dark side as Palpatine.

He asked Anakin to spy on the Chancellor and when Anakin objects, Obi Wan pushed him to follow the Council's orders. The Council also pushed Anakin to betray the Chancellor. Anakin tried to do the right thing when Mace Windu and the other Jedi showed up to kill Palpatine as well.

It's kind of strange that Obi Wan is held in high regard, when he went against the Jedi Code and blatantly lied to Luke on several occasions, yet he's basically thought of as a hero.
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Old 12-11-2020, 07:59 PM   #5
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I watched Attack of the Clones two nights ago and Revenge of the Sith last night, before staying up until Midnight to watch Chapter 15 of The Mandalorian and one thing that really hit me was that Obi Wan was just as responsible for Anakin's fall to the dark side as Palpatine.

He asked Anakin to spy on the Chancellor and when Anakin objects, Obi Wan pushed him to follow the Council's orders. The Council also pushed Anakin to betray the Chancellor. Anakin tried to do the right thing when Mace Windu and the other Jedi showed up to kill Palpatine as well.

It's kind of strange that Obi Wan is held in high regard, when he went against the Jedi Code and blatantly lied to Luke on several occasions, yet he's basically thought of as a hero.
I haven’t rewatched the prequels in a while but listening to others talk about it I think there was probably a lot of nuance that gets lost in the bloat.
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Old 12-11-2020, 08:12 PM   #6
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Old 12-12-2020, 05:36 AM   #7
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Why? Didn't he do enough damage to SW the first time around? Did he miraculously learn how to actually act?
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Why? Didn't he do enough damage to SW the first time around? Did he miraculously learn how to actually act?
I think you under-estimate his powers...
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Old 12-12-2020, 09:47 AM   #9
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Why? Didn't he do enough damage to SW the first time around? Did he miraculously learn how to actually act?
Portman was awful in the prequels as well and she's a great actress. It all comes back to Darth Lucas and his absolute control over everything that made those movies so bad. Seriously, who did act well in prequels?

And while I hated Christensen's portrayal of Anakin as much as anybody else, he wasn't nearly as awful or annoying as Kylo in the last three.
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Old 12-14-2020, 12:12 PM   #10
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Portman was awful in the prequels as well and she's a great actress. It all comes back to Darth Lucas and his absolute control over everything that made those movies so bad. Seriously, who did act well in prequels?

And while I hated Christensen's portrayal of Anakin as much as anybody else, he wasn't nearly as awful or annoying as Kylo in the last three.
True. The Kylo bar is likely an un-achievable mark to lower.
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Old 12-13-2020, 09:38 PM   #11
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Why? Didn't he do enough damage to SW the first time around? Did he miraculously learn how to actually act?
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Load of shit. Kylo was the only good thing about the sequels. Way better than Hayden's shit-tier prequels.
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Load of shit. Kylo was the only good thing about the sequels. Way better than Hayden's shit-tier prequels.
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Load of shit. Kylo was the only good thing about the sequels. Way better than Hayden's shit-tier prequels.
He sucked balls. An emo toddler with force powers. He was as bad a villain as Nero in Star Trek.

Again, I don't blame the actor. He was the victim of bad stories and bad directing.

I pretty much hate VII through IX as much as I do I through III. They're all bad movies. The only good, truly enjoyable Star Wars movies made since the 80s are Rogue One and Solo.
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He sucked balls. An emo toddler with force powers. He was as bad a villain as Nero in Star Trek.

Again, I don't blame the actor. He was the victim of bad stories and bad directing.

I pretty much hate VII through IX as much as I do I through III. They're all bad movies. The only good, truly enjoyable Star Wars movies made since the 80s are Rogue One and Solo.
Exactly.

There was nothing "cool" or "calculating" about Kylo Ren.

He continually acted like a spoiled child and had zero control of his emotions. His "redemption" was about as a dumb as possible.
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