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Tyler Bray 53 37.06%
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Old 07-24-2017, 03:10 PM  
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Tyler Bray vs Patrick Mahomes II competition for backup
This should be a simple poll. Who do you all think will win the backup job to Alex Smith during training camp and preseason competition? Meaning the one that gets to suit up on game days to trust when Alex Smith gets KO~ed out of a game.

Andy Reid said this is a competition so let them duel it out.

Tyler Bray 5th year man being a back up to a backup gives him the edge knowing the system and being around the guys and coaching. He is currently the #2 quarterback.

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Patrick Mahomes II the #10 pick in the first round after trading up 17 spots and has a lot to learn but has desire to be the starting quarterback sooner than later.


This isn't about Alex Smith but who would you trust to go in a game if heaven forbid something happens to our starting quarterback to keep us alive for the playoffs?
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Old 11-17-2020, 10:59 AM   #196
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Old 11-17-2020, 11:24 AM   #197
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As they are right now it isn't close.

Bray over Mahomes.

But we'll see what happens by the end of the Pre-Season.

If they only want 2 QBs then Mahomes will get it by default. Bray is topped out as far as I'm concerned while Mahomes has youth going for him.
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Since Reid has been in KC he has been very conservative in bringing young QBs along, so I'll say Bray.
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Old 11-17-2020, 12:03 PM   #198
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Dane? Wtf? You let me down.....
You think DeShaun Watson is better than Patrick Mahomes, so you probably don't have much room to analyze other people's takes on QBs.
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Old 11-17-2020, 12:09 PM   #199
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Mahomes should redshirt. They'd be better off bringing in Tyler Palko this year. Mahomes needs to rebuild his mechanics and you can't do that while playing.
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Old 11-17-2020, 12:09 PM   #200
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Old 11-17-2020, 12:10 PM   #201
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I dont care how thickheaded he might be, Bray is currently ahead of Mahomes on the WCO learning curve
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Old 11-17-2020, 12:12 PM   #202
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I admit it's possible Mahomes will play so well that Reid is forced to make him the number 2 QB but realistically, it is best if Mahomes is #3 this year.
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Mahomes won't even suit up unless Alex gets injured. Only way he sees the field this year is if both Alex and Tyler are injured or Tyler just plain sucks it up in Alex's absence.
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Old 11-17-2020, 12:13 PM   #204
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Mahomes should be the backup so he can really develop in practice by taking reps on the scout team. The best way for Mahomes to learn is to actually play and go through his development in real time, then repeat it every day. He isn't going to learn anything standing at practice and watching everyone else.

We should also want Mahomes to be the backup because of what it means to Alex. I want Alex to know his job is on the line at all times and that he needs to play well consistently if he wants to keep the starting role.

Does anyone really think Alex would feel the slightest bit of pressure to perform if Bray is the backup?

Damn, RunKC was actually spitting out a real damn good opinion.
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Old 11-17-2020, 12:22 PM   #206
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Old 11-17-2020, 12:23 PM   #207
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Hindsight is always 20/20. With the information available at that time, I stand behind my post.

That doesn't mean I agree with it today.
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Completely disagree. Mechanics are taught with the goal of creating a more accurate passer.

What if you're accurate without those mechanics? Why does your feet placement matter if you're dropping dimes 30 yards downfield?

I don't believe mechanics can be fixed. It's muscle memory at this point.

Mahomes has enough natural accuracy and arm talent to overcome the lack of traditional mechanics. Sure, they should be honed in an effort to be more consistent, but this idea that his mechanics are so far gone that he HAS to sit? I don't buy it.

With that said, i expect to see Mahomes win the #2 job by preseason week 3.
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Old 11-17-2020, 12:34 PM   #209
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Look at Aaron Rodger's lower body in most of these throws. They didn't "Fix" shit. His mechanics are very Mahomes like. VERY Mahomes like.

Like i've said many times before: Initially i hated the Mahomes idea because of his mechanics, and i do not believe QB mechanics get "fixed" in the NFL.

The more i watched him though, the more i realized he doesn't need perfect mechanics to make accurate throws. I realized, he was very Rodgers like.

Most of these clips below are what we'd consider "poor mechanics". For QB's like these, **** MECHANICS

**** MECHANICS
**** MECHANICS
**** MECHANICS

Get that shit out of your head.

If you've spent any time watching Mahomes then there is no way in hell you can tell me that they aren't similar, damn near identical to Rodgers in this highlight reel.

Alright, i ****ing killed it in this thread.

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Because mechanics have a lot to do with consistency. Mahomes deep ball is pretty but it is inconsistent. Sometimes it will be perfect, sometimes he'll underthrow it, sometimes overthrow. No throw of his looks alike and unpredictability isn't what you want from the QB position.
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