**Official Chiefs 2018 Training Camp Thread**

[RunKC]

A new era is born!

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[pugsnotdrugs19]

I really hate it for the Chargers. I just hope we don’t have these same issues. I know someone will get hurt, likely many, but in July? Sheesh.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I really hate it for the Chargers. I just hope we don’t have these same issues. I know someone will get hurt, likely many, but in July? Sheesh.

If you think the safety position looks weak now, just wait until Berry inevitably gets hurt again.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Not to mention the guy was pretty ****ing productive in his lone start last year going up against a fellow rookie that was a 1st rounder.

The lack of patience with youmg players is ridiculously ignorant.

I never declare draft picks to be failures without first seeing them fail consistently, and Tanoh had yet to demonstrate ANY kind of pattern (for failure or success) simply because he wasn't on the field ever. That's how you develop a player like that, and it was smart on Reid and Sutton's part. Basically, he got a redshirt year just like Mahomes did.

That being said, I DID complain about the pick when it was made and throughout the regular season last year because it nearly perfectly encapsulated Dorsey's draft strategy and why it could and often did lead to problems.

Tanoh had the cards stacked against him for a 2nd round pick, and I don't think that's an unfair statement to make even if he ends up being a great player. When he was drafted, his role was undefined-- people didn't know if he would play DL or OLB or be some worthless tweener. His college production compared to the level of competition he faced was also a huge concern-- people just didn't know what he was being asked to do in college that made those numbers so low. Compared to another freak athlete we drafted high like Poe, we were at least able to point to the tremendous upside and say, "His coaches weren't using him properly and didn't seem to care about getting him to play with leverage." I don't think it was clear what Tanoh was doing "wrong" in college that led to him to not successfully using his Samson strength and Stretch Armstrong length to his advantage.

I think it's possible to bemoan a draft pick and not shit on the player, necessarily.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

https://www.chiefs.com/news/second-y...?sf194560615=1


This is, in my opinion, the most under-appreciated development in camp. This would be soooo huge if he turns into a Kearse-type player.

Man, he just looks so out of place at OLB. Would be nice for it to workout, but damn, that athleticism could be such a force inside vs guards and centers.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by O.city

Man, he just looks so out of place at OLB. Would be nice for it to workout, but damn, that athleticism could be such a force inside vs guards and centers.

A guy like that with his gifts should be able to make plays all over the LOS. We should move him around a lot.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

I never declare draft picks to be failures without first seeing them fail consistently, and Tanoh had yet to demonstrate ANY kind of pattern (for failure or success) simply because he wasn't on the field ever. That's how you develop a player like that, and it was smart on Reid and Sutton's part. Basically, he got a redshirt year just like Mahomes did.

That being said, I DID complain about the pick when it was made and throughout the regular season last year because it nearly perfectly encapsulated Dorsey's draft strategy and why it could and often did lead to problems.

Tanoh had the cards stacked against him for a 2nd round pick, and I don't think that's an unfair statement to make even if he ends up being a great player. When he was drafted, his role was undefined-- people didn't know if he would play DL or OLB or be some worthless tweener. His college production compared to the level of competition he faced was also a huge concern-- people just didn't know what he was being asked to do in college that made those numbers so low. Compared to another freak athlete we drafted high like Poe, we were at least able to point to the tremendous upside and say, "His coaches weren't using him properly and didn't seem to care about getting him to play with leverage." I don't think it was clear what Tanoh was doing "wrong" in college that led to him to not successfully using his Samson strength and Stretch Armstrong length to his advantage.

I think it's possible to bemoan a draft pick and not shit on the player, necessarily.

That’s definitely fair. I wasn’t thrilled with the pick either, especially when they announced that he was going to be an OLB.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by TLO

If you think the safety position looks weak now, just wait until Berry inevitably gets hurt again.

I'd call the Achilles the only "real" injury. The knee was a hit job and the cancer was a freak thing.
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[Buckweath]

Somehow, fans would still find a way to criticize Dorsey's drafts.

He was outstanding at drafting.

Tanoh might very well prove to be another hit for him.

I trusted Dorsey all the way when it came to drafting.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Buckweath

Somehow, fans would still find a way to criticize Dorsey's drafts.

He was outstanding at drafting.

Tanoh might very well prove to be another hit for him.

I trusted Dorsey all the way when it came to drafting.

Was he though? I mean, yeah he definitely had some hits. But is it really that much more than the average?

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by TLO

If you think the safety position looks weak now, just wait until Berry inevitably gets hurt again.

Negative Nancy..... Debbie Downer... Bet you he plays the whole year..

[OKchiefs]

Originally Posted by Buckweath

Somehow, fans would still find a way to criticize Dorsey's drafts.

He was outstanding at drafting.

Tanoh might very well prove to be another hit for him.

I trusted Dorsey all the way when it came to drafting.

He was okay at finding offensive talent, complete shit at drafting defense.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

His hits were big but they were also shortcuts in many ways. Look at Peters. Only got 3 years out of him.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

I never declare draft picks to be failures without first seeing them fail consistently, and Tanoh had yet to demonstrate ANY kind of pattern (for failure or success) simply because he wasn't on the field ever. That's how you develop a player like that, and it was smart on Reid and Sutton's part. Basically, he got a redshirt year just like Mahomes did.

That being said, I DID complain about the pick when it was made and throughout the regular season last year because it nearly perfectly encapsulated Dorsey's draft strategy and why it could and often did lead to problems.

Tanoh had the cards stacked against him for a 2nd round pick, and I don't think that's an unfair statement to make even if he ends up being a great player. When he was drafted, his role was undefined-- people didn't know if he would play DL or OLB or be some worthless tweener. His college production compared to the level of competition he faced was also a huge concern-- people just didn't know what he was being asked to do in college that made those numbers so low. Compared to another freak athlete we drafted high like Poe, we were at least able to point to the tremendous upside and say, "His coaches weren't using him properly and didn't seem to care about getting him to play with leverage." I don't think it was clear what Tanoh was doing "wrong" in college that led to him to not successfully using his Samson strength and Stretch Armstrong length to his advantage.

I think it's possible to bemoan a draft pick and not shit on the player, necessarily.

This is exactly why I liked this years draft. All players were from big schools and had extensive experience playing positions similar to what they are now playing with us and they are ready to go day 1.

The first 2 rds for sure need to be players with decent floors. Unless it’s a QB, get the raw, small school high ceiling guys in the mid rds.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

A guy like that with his gifts should be able to make plays all over the LOS. We should move him around a lot.

The Chiefs have been putting Chris Jones in a stand-up role in a few different packages this training camp. Justin Houston, the vet, already IS playing at every position, both on and off the line. Speaks is a rookie, and we're mostly working on finding him a home at OLB, but he's a former DT, and you can bet we're going to eventually move him around all different spots in the front 7.

Our safeties don't really have defined roles. Fuller and Nelson are both going to be used to defend outside and in the slot.

It's pretty clear that the Chiefs value players who do all kinds of things in all kinds of different formations in order to confuse offenses and mask their intentions when they line up. We've always done that since Sutton got here, but with a pick like Kpassagnon, I can at the very least respect that they don't believe in necessarily taking the player who will play the best in a particular defined position.

If they think an important future trend of defense in the NFL is having do-it-all players like Kpassagnon with the physical gifts to be disruptive no matter where they are, then I will be more than willing to chalk up my distrust of picking guys that high to my lack of understanding as a mere fan and not being able to think about things outside the box.

[Kiimo]

Update on #Chargers CB Trevor Williams: He was seen leaving the facility on crutches with his left foot in a walking boot. HC Anthony Lynn didn't give any update on the severity.

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