***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

ESPN reporter Edward Aschoff died in December from pneumonia at age 34... you can select anecdotal cases of almost any illness to promote hysteria/panic if that is your objective.

John Clayton smothered him in his sleep

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Natasha Ott, a 39-year-old New Orleans resident, felt the beginnings of a cold coming on March 10.

On Monday, she tested for coronavirus. Five days later, she was dead in her kitchen before ever getting her results — which were delayed. https://t.co/VbbvHTYxxc

— NOLA.com (@NOLAnews) March 21, 2020

how any one can compare this to swine is beyond me.

From the article that was published today.

Her test results have still not come back.

So no confirmation that it was from this virus?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

So this other dude says lungs can’t self-repair and you agree.

He says this virus causes damage to the lungs so I ask how they’re sure of that. You ask me how they’d know if it was permanent after only 2-3 months.

If the lungs can’t repair themselves as you say then any damage they receive would be permanent, no?

Why don’t you two just provide some links to legitimate scientific articles? You’re just a couple jamokes on a message board. Why would I take anything you’re saying at face value?

your conflating different diseases and issues. Please see my earlier post on how the lungs get oxygen into the body.

Longer term smoking can cause damage to those alveoli or not. Depends on how much and how long you smoked.

When you smoke you basically burn off the cilia. These cilia are what help you remove phlegm from your lungs. I have a 13 pack year history of smoking. When I quit, the cilia grew back and I didn’t damage the avolei. So under your reference point, the lungs did self heal.

But, you damage the alveoli. That’s it. They are forever damaged.

[Gravedigger]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Oh Damn teachers can get more time off from the 3 ****ing months they already have off. It wouldn't hurt teachers to thank tax payers every once in awhile either.

Teachers signed a contract, schools have to pay them. For once in their lives, being a teacher was actually a good decision. Teachers get paid shit for babysitting shitty kids from even shittier parents. Teachers don't get support and get thrown under the bus constantly from shitty school districts due to shittier parents threatening shitty frivolous lawsuits for everything their shitty kid does while they're not around. Teachers don't owe tax payers anything.

[displacedinMN]

Found two masks in the garage today from home depot. I had a pack of three when I painted the garage and bought a 3 pack. The mask said N95 on it. I am going to send them to my In laws in CA. They think they are coming home in few weeks.

[FloridaMan88]

Data from China shows the majority of people with Covid-19 only suffer mild symptoms, then recover

Last month, scientists from the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention published a research paper analyzing the data for the first 72,314 people diagnosed with Covid-19.

The researchers also looked at how severe the illness was for those who were diagnosed. The good news: more than 80% experienced only mild symptoms. Almost 14% were classed as severe cases, while the condition of almost 5% was determined to be critical.

Link to full article: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/20/healt...ntl/index.html

[displacedinMN]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

Teachers signed a contract, schools have to pay them. For once in their lives, being a teacher was actually a good decision. Teachers get paid shit for babysitting shitty kids from even shittier parents. Teachers don't get support and get thrown under the bus constantly from shitty school districts due to shittier parents threatening shitty frivolous lawsuits for everything their shitty kid does while they're not around. Teachers don't owe tax payers anything.

If were are going to go online the rest of the semester-I am going to break my leave and do online work. I am trying to be part of the solution.

[lewdog]

Reached out to a local distillery last week about sanitation products after the FDA rolled back regulations for healthcare facilities. We are running dangerously low. Owner was awesome and by end the week provided us with 5 gallons of sanitation product at 80%. And their whiskey game ain't bad either.

Adventurous Stills in Tempe. Pay them a visit once this is over and if you're in town.

http://www.adventstills.com/whiskey-and-spirits/

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

ESPN reporter Edward Aschoff died in December from pneumonia at age 34... you can select anecdotal cases of almost any illness to promote hysteria/panic if that is your objective.

looks like he got pneumonia because of cancer not a virus he could spread into the community. not quit the same thing.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/26/media...rnd/index.html

[displacedinMN]

My kids college online for the rest of the semester. She is crushed.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

your conflating different diseases and issues. Please see my earlier post on how the lungs get oxygen into the body.

Longer term smoking can cause damage to those alveoli or not. Depends on how much and how long you smoked.

When you smoke you basically burn off the cilia. These cilia are what help you remove phlegm from your lungs. I have a 13 pack year history of smoking. When I quit, the cilia grew back and I didn’t damage the avolei. So under your reference point, the lungs did self heal.

But, you damage the alveoli. That’s it. They are forever damaged.

better explanation than mine thanks.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Reached out to a local distillery last week about sanitation products after the FDA rolled back regulations for healthcare facilities. We are running dangerously low. Owner was awesome and by end the week provided us with 5 gallons of sanitation product at 80%. And their whiskey game ain't bad either.

Adventurous Stills in Tempe. Pay them a visit once this is over and if you're in town.

http://www.adventstills.com/whiskey-and-spirits/

I took about 5 buckets of hand sanitizer from my local brewery to a nursing home this week. The owners are making the hand santizer for free. volunteers are transporting it to Nursing homes and hospitals. It’s happening all over the USA.

[carlos3652]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Link to full article: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/20/healt...ntl/index.html

Lets say 50% of people get this in the USA. (180 million). Whats 20% of that, whats the 5% of critical?

36 million with Pneumonia + like symptoms, 8.5 million with Critical may not make it alive type symptoms (ARDS)

While 80% (the vast majority of people) 144 million will jut experience a bad flu or less.. those other millions are impressive numbers to deal with.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Monticore

better explanation than mine thanks.

explained it 20X a day for 10 years.

[oaklandhater]

A bit about me: I’m a generally healthy, 44-year-old male, 153 lbs. (surely less now), 5’7”, no drugs , rarely drink, no health conditions other than exercise-induced asthma, which I manage with an inhaler. #COVID19 #coronavirus #LatsCovid19Journal

— David Lat (@DavidLat) March 17, 2020