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Old 03-29-2023, 08:39 AM  
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***Official 2023 STL Cardinals Thread ***
2023 thread. Walker makes the roster. I'll update the rosters and opening day lineup when its official

2023 Opening Day Lineup
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2022 Opening Day roster.
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For the new Cardinal fans that joined the Planet since last year, here are some of the historical threads going back to 2006.
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Old 11-18-2023, 11:33 AM   #1456
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Waiting for Yepez to put up a .280/.370/.530 OPS with his next team.
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Old 11-18-2023, 11:54 AM   #1457
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We've had half a dozen "next Pujols" before him
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Old 11-20-2023, 11:23 AM   #1458
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Old 11-20-2023, 11:24 AM   #1459
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Jesus ****ing Christ, he was cooked last year. Mo is worthless.
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Old 11-20-2023, 11:49 AM   #1461
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Lynn as a fourth or fifth starter isn't that bad. He can at least give you some innings.
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Jesus ****ing Christ, he was cooked last year. Mo is worthless.
Had some solid underlying numbers but HR luck murdered him. Busch reduces homers so that'll help.

I don't think he's cooked - but league average 4th/5th starter is all you're wise to expect from him. $10 million on a 1-yr deal is about what those cost.

The problem is that if DeWitt is going to hold the line on payroll, that's gonna be about 1/4 of the free capital that we have.

There's really no such thing as a bad 1-year deal and I'd be surprised if he couldn't pitch to 2 WAR or so next year. Somewhere between the guy that missed bats in Chicago but got blown up otherwise and the guy that managed to get outs without striking anyone out in LA is the real Lynn. And I think that's probably a tolerably mediocre high 4s pitcher who should be able to bank 160-180 innings.

I mean for the first 300 starts of his career Lynn was a guy who gave up a homer every 10 innings; a pretty solid HR rate. Then suddenly he gave up a homer every FOUR last season and that's just loony tunes. I mean your HR/FB rate doesn't typically double while your K rate stays stable. His FB rate was up a little so it suggests that the pitches aren't quite what they were, but I think he's quite a bit better than he was for most of last season.

If we sign Yamamoto (and get a real CFer) then I think this is a solid move for competition at the back of the rotation. If we sign Sonny Gray and roll with that as our big off-season moves then that's just business as usual.

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The Yepez thing is odd. Guy had an option year left; made the league minimum. What's the upshot in DFA'ing him?

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Old 11-20-2023, 12:28 PM   #1465
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I mean for the first 300 starts of his career Lynn was a guy who gave up a homer every 10 innings; a pretty solid HR rate. Then suddenly he gave up a homer every FOUR last season and that's just loony tunes. I mean your HR/FB rate doesn't typically double while your K rate stays stable. His FB rate was up a little so it suggests that the pitches aren't quite what they were, but I think he's quite a bit better than he was for most of last season.
Well, look at the heat map of the only pitches he can mildly control and throws 80% of the time. Might as well put the ball on a tee. He was league average to one of the worst pitchers in baseball in every measure. I dont know if there was some kind of related injury, but there's really nothing to hang your hat on and say there's something to work with there.
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He will definitely not keep his mouth shut.
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Had some solid underlying numbers but HR luck murdered him. Busch reduces homers so that'll help.

I don't think he's cooked - but league average 4th/5th starter is all you're wise to expect from him. $10 million on a 1-yr deal is about what those cost.

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I mean for the first 300 starts of his career Lynn was a guy who gave up a homer every 10 innings; a pretty solid HR rate. Then suddenly he gave up a homer every FOUR last season and that's just loony tunes. I mean your HR/FB rate doesn't typically double while your K rate stays stable. His FB rate was up a little so it suggests that the pitches aren't quite what they were, but I think he's quite a bit better than he was for most of last season.

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There is still a lot of value for a guy who can still give you 6 innings every 5 days even if he gives up homers.
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